Smart questions
Smart answers
Smart people
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Member Login

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips now!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

Join Eng-Tips
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

LINK TO THIS FORUM!

Add Stickiness To Your Site By Linking To This Professionally Managed Technical Forum.
Just copy and paste the
code below into your site.

Partner With Us!

"Best Of Breed" Forums Add Stickiness To Your Site
Partner Button
(Download This Button Today!)

Feedback

"...this web site is a 'Godsend' for me. If I have a programming problem that I'm unable to solve, I'll get a sensible reply in no time. It's really great!..."

Geography

Where in the world do Eng-Tips members come from?

How to reinforce or add support to garage attic for storage

CoyoteCreek (Computer)
6 Feb 12 14:04
I would like to add storage space into the attic area of my garage. My garage is 20' wide with 2"x6" rafters 24" OC.  The roof angle is 5/12. All word work is exposed.  There are no trusses. The walls are made of 2"x4" studs 16" on center.

Over one portion of the garage the previous owner put three chords that span the entire width of the garage. Each chord is comprised of two 2"x6" pieces connected end-to-end with a 4' piece of sistered 2"x6". The chords rest (are nailed) on top of my garage wall top plates. The spacing of the chords is roughly 48" OC.  That means the chords cover an area of roughly 8'x20'.

I want to place some OSB on top of the chords to store stuff (roughly 150-250 lbs of random stuff). But, I am doubtful of the chord design (quite frankly, I don't even see what purpose the chords are performing right now).

What options do I have to utilize the roughly 20' wide by 8' long by roughly 4' high (roof angle is 5/12) space in my attic that the chords span?

I have some ideas but I'd rather pose the question than pose my guesses.

Thanks for your help.
 
MiketheEngineer (Structural)
6 Feb 12 16:06
Doesn't sound like a great idea.  This type of roof was never meant to carry much in the way of ceiling loads --- maybe drywall.

Will it hold 150-250 lbs - probably.  If you can get up there and walk around SAFELY - that will give you your answer.  But over time, you will start to see the 2x6 "creep" down.  Wood does that over time.

Suggest you hire a local structural engineer and he will be in a much better position to explain what he sees and what he thinks will happen....

Good Luck..
TXStructural (Structural)
6 Feb 12 21:48
The existing bottom chords resist the outward thrust of the rafters on the walls.  They ARE NOT designed for gravity loads, DO NOT place loads on them.

A structural engineer, or a framing contractor, will look at the span length and the loading requirement (minimum attic floor load, NOT the small load you want to impose) and size joists for the span.  A quick Google will find span tables for the wood available (probably SYP - southern yellow pine, or SPF - spuce-pine-fir).  You should expect something like 2x10's at 16 inch spacing.

Also, run a couple of strongbacks across the top of the joists from end to end to keep them from rolling over, or plywood the attic floor from end to end down the middle.

If it is inaccessible, and you just want to place a few pieces of pipe or lumber on the "attic floor", then you might be able to place a few additional 2x8's to hold the load, but I'm not going to tell you that in my capacity as an engineer, since things can easily go wrong.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close