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Frustrated with Hole Tool

Frustrated with Hole Tool

Frustrated with Hole Tool

(OP)
Hi,
I'm having trouble with the hole tool. I'm trying to create a through hole on a cylindrical part and for some reason it won't take. Everything in the preliminary steps looks good.

I've uploaded a video detailing my problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU88ISb2Y8

I'm also following this tutorial. The step I'm stuck on is on Page 15, Item 4. Specifically I'm not sure how to select a secondary reference collector. I tried right click holding everywhere but it won't come up. I also read online that you can't select a secondary reference if you're using a coaxial reference. Is this true?

Lastly I'm new to PRO E. I finally got my first real engineering job and this is what they use. Thank you in advance and I hope you don't mind me asking lots of questions.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11510082/eBook-PDF-Software-Pro-ENGINEER-Wildfire-HandsOn-Workshop

www.compositescentral.net

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

Co-axial only needs the surface and a single axis reference.
For the second reference, <ctrl> select the surface.
 

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

Having used Pro/E long before the hole tool existed I avoid it like the plague.  I prefer a revolved cut.  A much more flexible tool.

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The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends on a feature that isn't included in this version of Windows.
 

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

I disagree with that statement about a revolved cut, unless your holes are for fittings that have multiple diameters and tapers.
Changing the location of a hole created with the hole tool is so much easier and no extra geometry, hidden or visible, to deal with.
 

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

I see you're trying to place your hole on the outer surface where it sees only 1/2 of the cylinder.  I'll bet if you placed it 90 degrees from where you're trying to place it, it will go.

Pro/E has always had difficulty with outer cylindrical surfaces used as placements due to the way it defines a cylinder essentially as two halves.

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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

A revolved cut would not care.

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The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends on a feature that isn't included in this version of Windows.
 

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

dgallup,

Agree,  revolved cut would not care and sometimes it's the way to go.  OP is using the Hole Tool however.  It probably cares as it always did in the past.  I've not been on Pro/E since WF 1 however.  My suggestion was based upon past experience.

--
Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer

RE: Frustrated with Hole Tool

Fighterpilot

You may well be correct about why it's not working, I can't watch the video.  My reply was really back at looslib for defending what I consider to be a particularly sloppy piece of coding from PTC.  I hate the hole tool and consider is bad practice to use it.  In my experience using Pro/E since release 2, I use only a fraction of the specialized tools that PTC throws out there because it is usually better to use the most basic, flexible and robust tool if you want to keep using and modifying the model years or decades later.  I favor a little extra work up front to make a model that will always work.

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The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends on a feature that isn't included in this version of Windows.
 

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