Engineering Software: Verification and Validation
Engineering Software: Verification and Validation
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Hi there,
Clause 7.6 of ISO 9001:2008, says:"... When used in the monitoring and measurement of specified requirements, the ability of computer software to satisfy the intended application shall be confirmed. This shall be undertaken prior to initial use and reconfirmed as necessary. NOTE Confirmation of the ability of computer software to satisfy the intended application would typically include its verification and configuration management to maintain its suitability for use."
On the Other hand, in ASME V&V 10-2006, we have guidance for Verification and Validation in Computational Solid Mechanics.
Is there anybody out there that has an experience in preparation of a procedure for V&V of computer packages which are used in engineering design process, e.g. Caesar II, Ansys, etc.?
Clause 7.6 of ISO 9001:2008, says:"... When used in the monitoring and measurement of specified requirements, the ability of computer software to satisfy the intended application shall be confirmed. This shall be undertaken prior to initial use and reconfirmed as necessary. NOTE Confirmation of the ability of computer software to satisfy the intended application would typically include its verification and configuration management to maintain its suitability for use."
On the Other hand, in ASME V&V 10-2006, we have guidance for Verification and Validation in Computational Solid Mechanics.
Is there anybody out there that has an experience in preparation of a procedure for V&V of computer packages which are used in engineering design process, e.g. Caesar II, Ansys, etc.?






RE: Engineering Software: Verification and Validation
As with image processing, one would use the equivalent of a "Lena" image or images. Lena is a headshot picture of a model wearing a hat. I'd guess she's been featured in hundreds of papers on image processing. Likewise, one might start off with simple beams that have analytical solutions and go from there.
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Did anybody implement the content of ASME V&V 10 for his/her company?
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This would apply to vehicle dynamics software, crash, and probably general FEA.
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From ASME V&V 10-2006:"...Verification and validation (V&V) are the processes by which evidence is generated, and credibility is thereby established, that computer models have adequate accuracy
and level of detail for their intended use."
So, I think "ASME V&V 10"'s expression is not only for softeware developers. Am i right?
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Otherwise, of course, we'd be talking about thousands of companies running essentially the same identical tests on the same software, which seems a bit pointless. Running the same test 5000 times does not make the software 5000 times better.
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a) Does their own (redundant) testing.
b) Moans that vendor can't respond quickly to change requests.
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Even if the software company does its own due diligence regression testing, that does not ensure that it's applicable to every other application, or even an application that's only numerically different.
The once was math processor bug on the Pentium that was undetectable for 99.9% of the people using the chip. Likewise, one version of popular math program had a rounding bug in the 5th, 9th, and 11th decimal places, but only if the preceeding digits had a certain pattern. This is why one has always be wary of software results, and do as much testing of your own to ensure that your particular problems are correctly solved.
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1- V&V of software for its declared capabilities.
2- V&V of model, B.C.s and loadings, which depend on capabilities of user, and not software.
BTW, my previous post also has gotten waylaid,it seems nobody already engaged with ASME V&V 10, seriously.