PG&E missing maps
PG&E missing maps
(OP)
http://ar ticles.sfg ate.com/20 11-12-31/n ews/305756 52_1_leak- missing-ma ps-new-map
I lost my map, guess I am no longer responsbile for integrity of those pipelines...
Glad not to live near one of their lines.
I lost my map, guess I am no longer responsbile for integrity of those pipelines...
Glad not to live near one of their lines.





RE: PG&E missing maps
Uh, yeah.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
RE: PG&E missing maps
Every one of these companies have double-super-secret evaluations of the trade off between operating safely and killing a few citizens. They must not put too high a price on the population because they keep cutting staff and incentivising people to falsify inspection records.
David
RE: PG&E missing maps
My brief experience with PG&E they do not do a very good job of maintaining pipeline records. Sure, all companies have a risk matrix, on the x-axis scale it may even be number civilian deaths, but I would have a hard time believing PG&E would deem acceptable a level or number like an entire city block, at least I hope not.
I agree, no doubt they were under pressure to reduce operating costs, we all are everyday, but as a professional in integrity, part of our job is to try to educate bean counters why certain integrity tasks cannot be dropped and potential consequences of having this type of mindset.
RE: PG&E missing maps
RE: PG&E missing maps
TTFN
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Only put off until tomorrow what you are willing to die having left undone. - Pablo Picasso
RE: PG&E missing maps
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RE: PG&E missing maps
Folks at PG&E took a series of actions that resulted in 3/100ths of one percent of their system not being included in their inspection program. It was much more likely that a clerical employee skipped a few lines while transcribing a list than it was some manager telling the clerical worker that 99.97% of the map names was all he had to input. Management might be at fault in not providing adequate manpower to the task, but it might have just been a human mistake.
The socialist mantra of "corporate greed" has just gotten tired with over use.
David
RE: PG&E missing maps
HOWEVER, then followed 20 yrs of actions, or inactions, wherein their corporate greed has resulted in generations of employees who DO NOT have safety as job ONE, and over 20 yrs, no one has wondered who was checking all those pipelines. If there had been company emphasis on safety, there would have been reviews of the testing plans every time something changed, like comparing the set of plats to the actual service area.
This form of intentional presumption that everything is was OK, so it's still OK, is what led to the two shuttle disasters, but it's coupled with a management that stifles dissent and employee initiative that might have caught the error no more than 15 yrs ago.
This sort of environment is ENDEMIC. Few companies truly adhere to written company policies on safety, or even proper business practice, because it's too expensive to implement.
TTFN
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RE: PG&E missing maps
I only hope and pray that a US Senator or Congressman can be swept away in the next big natural gas conflagration.
I think that it is important to note that in the PG&E San Bruno accident, the gas piping was operating at a pressure that was the maximum allowed for that material in the NEW condition. The fact that the piping system included a fifty year old poorly welded section of uninspected pipe was not important to the MBAs.
The operating pressure had slowly increased over time.....
Run it 'till it breaks.....!!! The new MBA credo !!
Take your management bonuses and blame an underling.
Same as it ever was.....
RE: PG&E missing maps
"10 % of those traced gas leaks to faulty welds or materials" - source San Francisco Chronicle
Faulty welds? - no sign off by a welding inspector – I would have assumed that all welds were NDT inspected – or do they just do random.
Materials? - wrong grade?, rubber perhaps?
Apply that to 40,000 some odd miles of gas pipe and you have a potential bigger problem waiting to happen.
online weld & material tracking system p://www.yo utube.com/ watch?v=iA 3CFmRo3Fs& amp;featur e=youtu.be
http://www.qcwelds.com/
view a brief over view on
htt