A PLC that would be suitable to.......
A PLC that would be suitable to.......
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Hi, do u guys have any suggestion on which PLC should be used on a bottling plant automation system? (with conveyor belts, a filling station where the bottles are filled with liquid and finally stacks the bottles) and please provide reasons why it should be use.





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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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i only know a little about PLCs as im completely new to it. thanks
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It's like you asking, "what car should I buy? We could say "Ferrari", or "F150", or "GEO Metro". What6 are the odds we'd get it right?
If you don't want to go to the bother of learning some basics and coming up with a specification that describes the required timings, number and types of inputs, number and type of outputs, any non-volatile requirements, interrelated event sequences, and external connectivity needed, start looking for local support to help you with it. Someone who you can go back to for any problems that come up.
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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So, using itsmoked analogy, these are the "Ford" and "GM" PLC's.
If you want information on a bottling/filler/palletiser company, try google Krones.
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From an operation & maintenance engineer - thank you!
Getting a non-standard PLC really does cause problems, and eats money either in training on the new type, or in getting rid of it and replacing it with the site standard.
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If you are an OEM sending equipment to a plant somewhere else and your customer has not given you a preference, it's either because they are completely backward or they have no regard for their investment in automation. It's not about hardware, everyone makes good hardware or they would be out of business. It's about support and training, and that usually costs MORE than the hardware. A few basic questions to your customer may be in order here.
But if that gets you nowhere, most bottling line equipment OEMs I am familiar with typically go the Rockwell / Siemens route depending on the end user's destination, simply because of the ubiquitous nature of the available support from those two. But having recently come from a Siemens integrator in California and seeing a lot of bottling line equipment for the wine industry coming in from Italy and other EU countries, I can tell you that most of those people selected Siemens because of the support they were used to in the EU and got a rude awakening when their equipment arrived in Northern California, where we were virtually the only source for quality support. Even the Siemens direct people were few and far between, the OEMs frequently had to fly people in from Italy to get systems up and running. Had they chosen Rockwell, they would have been beating people off with a stick who would want to help them. So bottom line, that's what counts, what is available AT THE LOCATION.
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RE: A PLC that would be suitable to.......
Selecting PLC depends on your requirement and budget and also the capability of communications.
We have I-8000 series Pack Controllers:
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you can choose either using C programming or ladder logic.
Here is a video showing you an application with only modules controlling the production line:
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For your whole system, you may also need IO modules and SCADA software for a PC end monitoring and controlling your bottling plant.
Luna Li
Technical Engineer
www.icpdas-usa.com