Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
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I recently received a disturbing, well more like annoying, phone call from a PTC rep. They were trying to tell me that the SW kernel license from Seimens will expire in 2012 and cause SW to switch everyone over to Catia. Or, as he put it, switch to Creo from PTC.
I had to contain my laughter and let this poor schmuck finish his speech. I guess he doesn't truly realize how BIG SW really is and it would be a idiotic move on SW side to have EVERY user switch to Catia.
Anybody else here this bull from other sources?
I had to contain my laughter and let this poor schmuck finish his speech. I guess he doesn't truly realize how BIG SW really is and it would be a idiotic move on SW side to have EVERY user switch to Catia.
Anybody else here this bull from other sources?
If first you do succeed...try something harder.
Blair H.
SW 2009 sp3.0, HP x4600
3.16ghz Intel Core2 Duo,
3.0 GB ram,
Nvidia Quadro FX 1700
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RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
That's what I've heard.
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What is happening though is SolidWorks is being re-written from the ground up. It will use the Catia geometry kernel called CGM. It currently uses the Siemens UG/NX parasolid geometry kernel.
Dassault has stated on numerous occasions in the past year that they will keep both the original version of SolidWorks (v1) available for quite a long time as well as the new version. My guess, at least 8-10 years.
Dassault does this as well with Catia v5 and v6. They just stated at their Dassault Systemes Customer Conference, this week, that Catia v5 will be supported until at least 2020.
They are developing SolidWorks built on the Catis CGM kernal and the Enovia database. This is being talked about as SolidWorks v6.
I am going to take a guess that we will see the first iteration of SolidWorks v6 sometime in 2012. I am hoping it is presented at SolidWorks World 2012.
This has been the talk of the CAD community for the last two years since SolidWorks presented future technology they where working on at SoildWorks World 2010.
Cheers,
Anna Wood
SW2011 SP4, Windows 7 x64
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RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
I believe that Anna has seen some version of SWv6. I am sure she can't say much if anything about it.
By saying that SolidWorks is being rewritten from the ground up means it will be SolidWorks the same way the Volkwagen Beetle is the Volkswagen Beetle. The two just aren't the same at all.
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I know it's just the normal tactic of a desperate PTC rep. Just wanted to know if anybody else heard this before.
Anna...you seem to know alot about Dassault, do you work for them? LOL
If first you do succeed...try something harder.
Blair H.
SW 2009 sp3.0, HP x4600
3.16ghz Intel Core2 Duo,
3.0 GB ram,
Nvidia Quadro FX 1700
Space Pilot Pro...they ROCK!!
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
No big deal, SW will still be around, just newer.
Chris
SolidWorks 10 SP5.0
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion
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I always wondered why SW never sold the ability to read and write CATIA files except as an addon to some 3rd party apps and to SRAC.
If you deal with curvy stuff this may be a problem in dealing with legacy parts as CATIA IIRC uses high order splines while SW uses 3rd order splines in it's non-analytic surfaces.
Just because they use the same name doesn't mean it will be the same software.
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CSWP, BSSE
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Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
I have not seen v6. We SolidWorks bloggers ask them regularly if they are ready to show it yet. That is one very tightly held secret at this point in time at DS SolidWorks.
Cheers,
Anna Wood
SW2011 SP4, Windows 7 x64
http://www.renderbay.com
http://www.solidmuse.com
http://www.phxswug.com
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Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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TOP
CSWP, BSSE
www.engtran.com www.niswug.org
www.linkedin.com/in/engineeringtransport
Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
It is not just legacy data either. Legacy API work, legacy CAD procedures, legacy training and experience all go out the window. Perhaps it will even force a hardware upgrade not otherwise planned.
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CSWP, BSSE
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Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
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This is what happens.
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Joe
SW Premium 2011 SP0.0
Dell T3500 Xeon W3505 2.4Ghz
6.0GB Win7 Pro x64
ATI FirePro V5800
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
Yeah I heard about this, but you're sending this as a joke, correct?
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
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CSWP, BSSE
www.engtran.com www.niswug.org
www.linkedin.com/in/engineeringtransport
Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
SolidWorks just has to spend time developing a routine that will map Parasolid data into the CGMv6 data structure. The user interface may or may not be changed, but that will be driven by current programming ideas more than functionality of the kernel.
With a Parasolid-based system, every new version has a built-in update routine that maps the changes to the latest kernel code. You don't see it and you don't run it, it is run automatically on evry part you open. I would expect SW to do the same when they finally release the v6-based sysetm.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
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RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
Yes, my reply was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I went to add a smiley and clicked on "submit" instead "edit".
Joe
SW Premium 2011 SP0.0
Dell T3500 Xeon W3505 2.4Ghz
6.0GB Win7 Pro x64
ATI FirePro V5800
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
It is one thing to say software can be kernel agnostic for creating new models and an entirely different thing to say it CAN BE kernel agnostic for legacy data.
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CSWP, BSSE
www.engtran.com www.niswug.org
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Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
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Certified SolidWorks Professional
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5 years ago they came in and did a presentation comparing Wildfire to other products at their technology state back in the 90s of the last century. My boss took the bait hook, line and sinker. We now have a bunch of Creo seats that nobody uses.
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CSWP, BSSE
www.engtran.com www.niswug.org
www.linkedin.com/in/engineeringtransport
Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
RE: Rumor of SW kernel expiring in 2012
Yes, PTC sales used to come over the top and tell the GM/President that unless his engineering department was using their sofwtare they were behind the times and losing the company money. PTC also used to tie in seat sales to a maintenance renewal to show that the customer base was expanding.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli