SolidWorks 2012 Has Arrived
SolidWorks 2012 Has Arrived
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What are your first impressions? I'm not impressed very much with the additions at all. There's a couple of cool features in drawings. It looks like they want us to become "Buyers" with the cost tools. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to get a ballpark price on items, but every supplier will have there cost. I don't know if SW took in account for processing the part ie. paint, anodize, chem film etc...I didn't see it in the demo. I didn't watch all the demos due to lack of interest of the ones i did watch.
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
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Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
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Can anyone tell me where I can find "SW2012 What's New.pdf"?
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Chris
SolidWorks 10 SP5.0
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Not the pdf, but online.
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I just the pdf to your email account. It's about 4mb
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Thank you Colin.
Chris
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Dan
www.eltronresearch.com
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...And I also don't see any sign of PV 360 at all. Nothing. Did I miss it?
Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
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This is all I saw on page 24:
Documentation
New Tutorials
SolidWorks 2012 includes a new PhotoView 360 and Appearances tutorial and an enhanced
Animation tutorial.
To access these tutorials:
1. Click Help > SolidWorks Tutorials.
2. Click one of the following:
• All SolidWorks Tutorials (Set 1) (Animation Tutorial)
• All SolidWorks Tutorials (Set 2) (PhotoView 360 and Appearances)
3. Select the tutorial from the list.
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Lookst like they did pretty good:
**#10 Simplify Video Card Requirements – I'm not sure I entirely understand the scope of this request.**
**DONE** Added auto system check to RX so the exact driver is verified and a direct link to the correct driver if it is incorrect. No longer a manual process of verification outside of running RX. (Version 2011)
**#9 Exploded Views for Weldments – Cool.**
**DONE** MultiBody Explode (Version 2012)
#8 Option to Dangle Children Instead of Deleting – This should be much higher on the list, in my opinion.
#7 Graphical Map of Reference – Ok, sure.
**#6 Allow More Types of Assembly Features – Cool.**
**DONE** New assembly level weld feature, Fillet and Chamfer (version 2011)
#5 Better Utilization of Processore Cores – Yes, definately.
**#4 On The Fly Equations in Dialog Boxes – Yes!!!**
**DONE??** Drop down to "add equation and bring up needed dialogs in 2011, New equation editor interface in 2012**
#3 File Compatibility Between Versions – YES!!!
**#2 Increase Stabilty – Yes, but what does this really mean?**
**Will never be "done" but has been focuse of last 3 releases"
**#1 SoldWorks Should Cleanly Uninstall Itself – I agree with this too, but is this really something that affects a lot of people on a daily basis?**
**DONE** Prototype versions in late SPs of 2011, brought to front as visible selection in 2012
===2011===6 out of 10!
1.Angle mates that don't flip at random??
2.Better utilize processor cores
3.Option to dangle instead of deleting
**4.SolidWorks should cleanly uninstall itself**
**DONE** Late SPs of 2011 (Hidden but there) 2012 fully visible
**5.Freeze Features**
**DONE** Version 2012
**6.Enhanced Equations Input & Editing & Linking**
**DONE** New input interface in 2012
7.Convert a Solid Body into a Surface body without having to delete, offset, or knit faces
8.Make the ideas section (in the forum) available all year, not just for SWW
9.File compatibility between versions
10.Pressing Escape key should immediately return control of the interface
====2012====3 out of 10 so far...maybe more? Unsure on the ideas form request and mate functionality, could be 5 of 10??
Anyone know any other major software companies that meet these numbers for satisfying customer requests?
Cole M
CSWP, CSWST, CSWI, CPDM
Certified DriveWorks AE
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Dan
www.eltronresearch.com
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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However, I agree, that should not have been included in a Top Ten "enhancement" list, but that is what people voted for.
If anyone has ideas for improving the next Top Ten program, please add your suggestions to https
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that was the case for 2011 too...
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We have been mid crunch for over a year now and are still on 2009. Any opinions on weather or not 2011 was successful at improving stability?
Eric
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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I wonder if save to previous version works?
TOP
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too bad they don't have the "read future version" like proE had it for the wildfire 2.0 (so that it could read 3.0 files)
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TOP
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"Node news is good news."
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exactly.
although the option in the 2010 that you can retain holes, made in the assembly, in the parts themselves, is a much needed feature (for me).
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"That's an old saw that's been around for years.•It was promised at SWW 2011, for the second time."
Um this has never been promised. It has been on the top ten, but it has never been promised to be included.
I like the comparisons to line Cad as well. The expectation for backwards compatibility. I want something better, more powerful, more stable, more features, but make it still work in the old stuff. So why are we not asking Chevy. "Hey why can't I put the engine from my 2008 Monte Carlo into my 1980 Monte Carlo without modifying it?"
Cole M
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I recall it being promised at the last SWW, but others don't agree with me. Maybe I misunderstood.
TOP
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Cheers,
Anna Wood
SW2011 SP4, Windows 7 x64
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The fact is that you CAN put a 2008 model Chevy in a 1980's model: hell I owned a '54 Ford with a 1990's Chevy in it haha! I expect a loss of some functionality: I understand it couldn't be completely backwardly compatible - like the Chevy, but - like the Chevy - a lot of things will fit right on and with a bit of intelligent modification everything will work perfectly well.
I just feel it's such a basic thing and SW just can't do it. Occasionally I think SW is ploughing on with more, more, more when there are basic niggles I'd like fixing first. Maybe this will all be academic in a couple of years when we get this big over-haul to the Catia style SW?
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TOP
CSWP, BSSE
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Phenom IIx6 1100T = 8GB = FX1400 = XP64SP2 = SW2009SP3
"Node news is good news."
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I'm saying this because I come from using Solid Edge for several years and when they released V20 they seem to have concentrated all their efforts to make the software as stable as possible and they only added small improvements that were much appreciated by the current user base. We learned after the released of Synchronous Technology that they were working on it for a couple of years.
I wonder if we are seeing the same pattern here?
Food for thoughts!
Patrick
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Kellnerp you bring up the cost of SolidWorks over time. What are the maintenance costs of those other systems over that same period of time? Also what is provided with the other systems maintenances costs in comparison to SolidWorks upgrades and tech support being included with their maintenance?
Cole M
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Once you have a software package installed and running well continuing maintenance is a manufactured need, not a real need. When you have a significant amount of customization of that software in place, further updates can be expensive beyond maintenance. When you have software that won't interoperate with itself, the problem is compounded even more.
TOP
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"Node news is good news."
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In the case of NX and Pro/E, if you skip a year, you have to pay back maintenance to get it reinstated. Where I used to work, they stopped their UG maintenance after 18 years because corporate had decided to move them to Pro/E. So they stayed on UG V18 for their legacy files. About 5 years later, they needed to upgrade to NX4 for a project so they bought 1 new seat as it was cheaper than the back bill. Plus they could still run the 30+ seats of V18 which they would have lost if they had only upgraded.
Backward compatabilty is more than just lost features of the newer release. It also involves the data structure of the file as saved. One of the files that SW was to upgrade is the Parasolid schema that changes with each release of the kernel. This is just one file that means that each install is larger because the latest schema has the methods for updating older versions to its structure.
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I would agree if SP's were just fixes that you possibly should not have to pay for them...but on that same front if you bring your car in for the system control updates you pay for those.
Interesting thing about SolidWorks SP's is they bury ehancements in them more regularly then you think. One of the more recent ones being the complete uninstall that is in 2012 was included in late SP's of 2011 if you knew where to find it. There are little enhancements in each one if you look for them.
Cole M
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I agree with separating the bugs from the enhancements.
Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer
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Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer