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New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

(OP)
Based on my previous thread regarding all the errata in the 13th Edition (due to me buying the first printing right away) are your plans to wait a while before buying?  Or buy right away and hope for fewer errata this time around?

 

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

(OP)
Here's a link to AISC's website page with the new edition:

AISC 14th Edition

 

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I don't want to be the test rat.  nosmiley

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering

 

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I've already bought the 14th edition.... So, my office can be one of the test rats!  

My hope is that this version of the manual will have considerably less errata than the last version.  After all, they are really just updating existing information now.  

That's should be easier than what they were attempting with the last edition... their first combined ASD/LRFD manual.  Even if their quality control process did not improve, I would still expect a better product this time around.  

 

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

(OP)
I would hope so.  That does make sense in that they imply in the advertising that this isn't a significant change to the 13th Edition.
 

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I wonder how many of the test rats will use the extra kip or so of bolt shear capacity the new edition allows.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

Sbisteel, that has been a point of contention in our office with some of our clients.  If the 2005 specification is the legal document, you would be in violation of the building code to use the new (higher) bolt shear values.  Trying to explain to someone that the connection is only "legally" good for one value while they say it's good for more can be frustrating.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

Not yet. Waiting to at least errata list 1 is issued.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I don't see much reason to buy I need it for a project.  The longer you wait, the more errata are incorporated into the printing.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

(I didn't mean to pick on AISC.  The same applies to IBC, ACI, and every other code body.)

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I was under the impression, based on the advertising, that the 14th would be more like the 13th with errata incorporated.  There's the 360-10 spec of course, but other than that the updates sounded to me like bug fixes more than new info.  I may get it soon, but then I also teach a class in steel, and we tend to use whatever is newest at the university, not to mention AISC isn't shipping the 13th anymore.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

The 13th Edition was a HUGE revision of previous manuals and incorporated a lot of original work.  That's a lot different from most manual for decades--most were relatively minor revisions of the previous one, with lots of copying.

The 14th Edition is mostly a copy of the 13th, so I'd have no issue buying the first one.  And no, I'm not an AISC employee. LOL.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

The perpetual motion machine of manufacturing useless books continues.  Another sad day for the civil engineering community.  Let's stop the madness.  Talk to your state boards and insist that new codes be saved for significant advancements.

But of course, if you buy it, wait until it's required and some of the errata are revised.  Despite being engineers, AISC does not properly review their work.  I would be fired if I put out documents with the quality control of AISC 360.  It's indefensible.

RE: New 14th Edition AISC Manual - Are you Buying Right Away?

I'd argue that the specifications themselves (i.e. AISC 360) are heavily reviewed and are fairly error free. They go through extensive public review before they are published. So, that is to be expected.

My guess is that Weab is really rerring to the steel manual and all the tables, examples, charts and such contained therein.  

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