Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
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Hi - I am tying to calculate how long it will take to heat a water tank using hot water pipes. The tank is well insulated so I will not calculate any heat loss. I need to heat the effluent of a digester to 160° and maintain that temperature to qualify for Class A bio-solids. Below are the parameters of my design.
Tank start temp. = 100°F
Tank end temp. = 160°F
Tank Dimensions = 19'W x 16'L x 18'D
Tank Volume = 40,930 gallons
Heating System = 800' of 3" sch 40 stainless pipe (3.500" OD - 3.068" ID)
Heating System Water Temp. = 180°F
Heat System Flow Rate = 200 gpm
I will have a mechanical mixer installed to help with heat transfer. I believe the only thing I am missing is the rate of heat transfer for the pipe.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
kl4schmitz
Tank start temp. = 100°F
Tank end temp. = 160°F
Tank Dimensions = 19'W x 16'L x 18'D
Tank Volume = 40,930 gallons
Heating System = 800' of 3" sch 40 stainless pipe (3.500" OD - 3.068" ID)
Heating System Water Temp. = 180°F
Heat System Flow Rate = 200 gpm
I will have a mechanical mixer installed to help with heat transfer. I believe the only thing I am missing is the rate of heat transfer for the pipe.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
kl4schmitz





RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
There is a course taught by John F. Pietranski. It has the title "Heating and Cooling of Agitated Liquid Batches: Isothermal Medium. You can download the course. The file name is Isothermal Medium.pdf.
You may know that more discussion and equations can be found in "process Heat Transfer" by Kern.
RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
The course srfish refered to is available here: http://www.pdhonline.org/courses/k101/k101.htm
A few questions:
Is the 800' feet of piping all inside your tank? If not, how is the tank being heated? (ie, Is the pipe running straight through the tank? Is there a labyrinth pass through the tank? Is there a separate heat exchanger?) A diagram might help.
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RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
To get the heat given, you use Q = U A dT. U between two water boundries and a layer of pipe is about 6 BTU/hr ft^2 F (limited by your tank water). Given your 800 feet of pipe (A=~1 ft^2/ft) and your dT (180-140(approx log mean), you will only transfer about 200KBTU/hr.
I don't think this is going to be good news for you, but it looks like 1,000 hours to heat the tank contents. Further, I would not underestimate the heat loss through the "well insulated" wall of the tank. This can add 10-15% to that number.
RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
kl4schmitz,
In addition to remarks by others, if it were clean hot water (or condensate) flowing at 8.7 fps vs a reasonably turbulent dilute water solution, and assuming well-distributed (~15?) turns of a pipe coil, U might even be twice as large as suggested by OMax1.
RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
Nonetheless, QMax1's calcs still seem to be off by about a factor of 10. Using his revised htc, the heat transfer rate should be ~2MBTU/hr, and with 20MBTU need, that's about 10 hrs.
Using similar equations from srfish's citation, I get about 10.8 hrs. But that assumes perfect mixing, presumably.
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RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
Having gone through something similar in the past year, I agree with IRstuff. Without actually crunching the numbers, 10 hours sounds about right, whereas 100 hours doesn't seem to sound right to me.
Regards,
SNORGY.
RE: Heat Transfer in Tank Using Hot Water Pipes
Admittedly they are more concerned with steam, not water...but the methodology to compute the tank heat loss is still valid.
Regards,
SNORGY.