CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
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which is better for high temperature application and has good corrosion resistant "Cast CA6NM" or "Cast 9CR-1MO (V,Nb)" STEEL?
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RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
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RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
Regarding corrosion applications in certain environments, the higher chromium containing alloy CA6NM (12%) will have better corrosion resistance in comparison Grade 91 (9%).
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
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"It's better to die standing than live your whole life on the knees" by Peter Mayle in his book A Good Year
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
I think castability of CA6NM is better!
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RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
As suggested earlier,it is advised you engage the services of a knowledgeable and experienced metallurgist. It helps!
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"It's better to die standing than live your whole life on the knees" by Peter Mayle in his book A Good Year
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
If you want an alternative alloy that can be used go with a 1%Cr-1%Mo- 0.5%V casting. This alloy has been used by turbine OEM's for many years, is reliable for elevated temperature service and castable. I would not use Grade 91 cast material.
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
While the oxidation resistance of 9-1 is better than a straight 9%Cr I am not sure that it would match 13%Cr.
I am more concerned about castability and resulting properties.
CA6NM has proven toughness, which could be a problem with 9-1.
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Can anybody introduce some books or papers about corrosion resistance of 9cr-1Mo-V steel?
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http://www.scielo.br/pdf/mr/v7n1/19340.pdf
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
Strange pair of alloys to compare.
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
Please note that while 9Cr-1Mo-V casting is grade C12A under A-217, 9Cr-1Mo castings have grade designation C12.
Regarding high temperature strength at 550 C, agree with Metengr that C12A is superior to CA6NM but not C12.
Regarding oxidation resistance at 550 C, castability of the alloy and weldability of the alloy, I agree with metengr and brimstoner CA6NM will prove superior to C12A and C12.
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RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
you right, that is srange pair of alloys to compare, but the design department replace CA6NM with C12A in some hot sections and as you know castability and weldability of CA6NM is better. we dont have any experience about casting of C12A and how to control Nitrogen content of steel, I didnt find any document about casting C12A and its problems.
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Thank you for your post. I had already valve magazine article about C12A but it is about properties of this steel.
How we can control Nitrogen content in steel making? How can measure Nitrogen content of steel?
RE: CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo
There are several ways of controlling the amount of Nitrogen in the steel. First off your specification, you just need to specify how much you need. For your reference, BOF steels can typically have much lower Nitrogen content than EAF material. This has to do with how steel is made. That being said, 150 ppm Nitrogen is easily attainable using an EAF.
However, this is a very unique situation due to alloy content. Unless the supplying mill is primarily a "stainless" mill, you may encounter problems with a EBT type EAF, since all of the alloys will be added to the ladle, due to the hot heel practice.
What is driving the nitrogen up is the use of alloying elements. Since the amount of Chrome and Moly in a 9Cr-1Mo added is fairly extensive, there is alwaoys a little bit of nitrogen in the alloys so you will have to watch it.
Specifying a vacuum degas product will signficantly aid in the nitrogen reduction of the steel. So clean steel practices need to be employed. A VOD product will have even tighter nitrogen content, but at a significant cost premium.
In summary to a slightly rambling post, the only way you guarantee a particular nitrogen content is to specify it at time of order andh ave the mill agree to the limit. There are so many factors that determine the Nitrogen content as a function of production so there is no one answer to your question.
As far as analyzing the nitrogen content of a steel, there are two widely accepted industry methods. The first is combustion analysis, (Leco O/N2). Yes I know Leco is a brand name but everyone calls it that. And the second is through new OES. I am rather old school and prefer combustion, but there are many people that swear by OES. I hope this helps