bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
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Recently my purchase of NX 7.5 was approved, and while out of the CAD community in general for a couple years, it's nice to be back.
So, after getting by with only a mouse for the last handful of months, I've decided to go with a Space-something to help with speed of operation.
I've read a handful of posts here, and from what I've read it seems like the Spacepilot pro's buttons more or less suck, and most people get by with a SpaceNavigator, or SpaceNavigator for laptops.
Since it will take a while for me to get back up to pro-speed and skill, and if the basic Navigator is what it seems most of you actually use....has anything changed as of late where it would advantageous to go with something other than a Navigator?
So, after getting by with only a mouse for the last handful of months, I've decided to go with a Space-something to help with speed of operation.
I've read a handful of posts here, and from what I've read it seems like the Spacepilot pro's buttons more or less suck, and most people get by with a SpaceNavigator, or SpaceNavigator for laptops.
Since it will take a while for me to get back up to pro-speed and skill, and if the basic Navigator is what it seems most of you actually use....has anything changed as of late where it would advantageous to go with something other than a Navigator?





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We trialled a pilot, but as I don't really find any of the buttons that useful (on any of them) its really just more expensive for no real reason (other than for 'bling' factor).
Question - In NX7.5 the space ball no longer automatically locks rotations whilst in the sketch task environment and changes back again when you exit (as it did in previous versions). I have reinstalled the latest drivers with the NXv3-7.5 add in, but no help. You can still press the 2D button when in a sketch and press it again when you exit, but it's just a pain when you are doing it maybe up to 100 times a day! Anyone else got this problem and managed to solve it? I assume it's a 3D connexion issue rather than NX?
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
BTW, I use a Space Pilot Pro in the office, a Space Navigator at home and when on the road, a Space Navigator for Laptops.
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NX 6.0.5.3 (NX 8 Beta)
Windows XP32
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RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
-Dave
NX 5.0.6.3mp7
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
"What might feel to you now as a bug, is actually an implemented feature. From what I have learned this is a change in the NX add-in. It was changed upon customer request.
Using the 2D button is unfortunately your only option for now, however I will forward your opinion to the product manager."
Does anyone else find this a real pain? I have requested that they at least make this a user switchable option and asked if there is a suitable old driver I can go back to (although I suspect not one that will work with NX7.5). I suppose it ties in with the new 'direct sketch' method, but I only find that useful for editing a sketch, I still want to draw a sketch in 2D - mainly because it is 2D! I can't understand why people want 3D in a sketch, you can always middle mouse button rotate for the rare occasions its necessary.
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
And now with the advent of 'Direct Sketching', that is the ability to create and edit a Sketch WITHOUT entering the Sketch Task environment at all, the desire to limit the Spaceball would be completely counter-intuitive to say nothing of counter-productive. So even if we were to consider whether to somehow try to automatically control when the Spaceball would or would not allow 3D rotations, this would now require additional logic, and perhaps even preference settings to describe exactly under WHAT conditions would the user want the 2D behavior enforced and when not to.
And while we're at it, since NX also supports 2D and 3D rotational control using Mouse gestures, how do you want that to behave when you enter the Sketch Task environment?
The reason that we can handle the enforced 2D behavior when working in the context of a Drawing is because NX itself is working in 2D ONLY when in a Drawing, whether a Spaceball is being used or not.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
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RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
The enforced 2D behavior in the drawing is an interesting one as the expanded view does not respect this and can move in 3D. It used to stay locked in 2D on NX5 for the space mouse, but in 7.5 it is not.
RE: bottom line Space-(explorer, pilot pro, navigator) question
BTW, I feel the same way you do about creating Sketches in the task environment versus as a 'direct' sketch, but we are having to accommodate more and more users who are coming from other CAD systems where sketching has always been done in whatever environment that they are in (i.e., NO special Sketch task environment, 2D or otherwise).
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.