Overcoming Time Obstacles for ECN's
Overcoming Time Obstacles for ECN's
(OP)
Hello all,
Currently our ECN system is anitquated and needs to be updated. When we need to distribute our ECN packages we e-mail it our to people on the routing list, but also need to have everyone sign it for evidence of communication. We would like to change to a system similar to outlook meeting. We need the capability of accepting ECN's or declining them and the ability to track them as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Currently our ECN system is anitquated and needs to be updated. When we need to distribute our ECN packages we e-mail it our to people on the routing list, but also need to have everyone sign it for evidence of communication. We would like to change to a system similar to outlook meeting. We need the capability of accepting ECN's or declining them and the ability to track them as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Foofire
CSWP





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PDM doesn't come free with all CAD systems Pete.
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Well I have not used Access just yet, but I can learn. (seems to be what engineers do everyday)
My PDM system is PDMworks with Solidworks. There is a limited number of seats for this and is confusing for someone who hasn't used it previously so I would not want to use that.
Thanks for the suggestions though
Foofire
CSWP
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RE: Overcoming Time Obstacles for ECN's
The OP indicates they have PDMWorks for Solidworks. I would suggest they use that for the drawings and models. The number of licenses is not a problem as you do not need one all the time, just when checking in or checking out. If the OP uses an Access database, they will have a learning curve with that as well as the time spent setting up the database. The Solidworks PDMWorks setup would be easier in my opinion. (I have not had to do either.) I have used cad systems with and without a formal PDM system. I have rarely seen problems with file managment using a PDM, but have seen similar problems with outher informal types of control. I recomend the OP read up on what is involved with document control systems before tyring to program an Access datuabase or setting up the Solidworks PDM.
The ECN's is a different question. This can be done with the PDM system and some release procedure is needed for the drawings and models after the ECN is approved, but the OP has a point about this being a drag on the number of licenses and the sign off may include some people who have no need to know how to use PDMWorks. If MS SharePoint can use the voting options in Outlook for the "signoff" then that may be the way to go.
Peter Stockhausen ://www.lin kedin.com/ profile/vi ew?id=3006 4526&t rk=tab_pro
Senior Design Analyst (Checker)
Infotech Aerospace Services
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Also, how do you validate drawings that may have an ECN out against them?
How badly do you need all the signoffs for your ECNs? If everybody is in the same building, all you really need is one manager to approve it. The manager can call a meeting, they can walk the ECN around the office and ask all the affected people about it, or they can just approve it and tell you to get the %&%#^^ thing fixed by 3:00pm!
If you make this thing complicated, people will get in the habit of working around it, and then you will have no control.
With any kind of bureaucracy, the KISS rule applies with a vengeance.
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