ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
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My company is initiating a new document control policy and we are split on the issue of revving submittal drawings to 'Fabrication Issue' when they come back approved.
We routinely send out submittal drawings for custom fabrications to consulting engineers for approval. Up until recently, when the drawing was approved and returned, it was up-revved before being issued to fabrication. Furthermore, the revision level after approval was switched from letter to number or vice-versa.
ASTM Y.14 35M & Y.14 100 speaks broadly of changing the revision of a drawing when transfer of design responsibility occurs. However, I believe this applies to documentation used between multiple organizations and is not necessarily applicable to releasing drawings for purchase & fabrication.
The issue is our drafters & drafting manager are convinced it is a waste of time to revise approved drawings if nothing has changed other than its ability to be purchased/fabricated. In their scenario a submittal drawing originally released at revision 'A' and approved by the customer would stay at revision 'A' throughout purchase & fabrication.
We routinely send out submittal drawings for custom fabrications to consulting engineers for approval. Up until recently, when the drawing was approved and returned, it was up-revved before being issued to fabrication. Furthermore, the revision level after approval was switched from letter to number or vice-versa.
ASTM Y.14 35M & Y.14 100 speaks broadly of changing the revision of a drawing when transfer of design responsibility occurs. However, I believe this applies to documentation used between multiple organizations and is not necessarily applicable to releasing drawings for purchase & fabrication.
The issue is our drafters & drafting manager are convinced it is a waste of time to revise approved drawings if nothing has changed other than its ability to be purchased/fabricated. In their scenario a submittal drawing originally released at revision 'A' and approved by the customer would stay at revision 'A' throughout purchase & fabrication.





RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
I have added the released rev, then stamped (in red) something like "waiting for approval" or "preliminary" or ??
The documents are signed per the revision that is submitted, not revised because it was approved. This is 'bassackwards'.
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RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
When we formally release for production we go to rev A.
So for us there is sum justification of the switch because it indicates that the drawing is under formal doc control.
However, if for you if even before being sent for approval the drawings are under formal control then it's debatable if revving it adds much.
In fact, my first thought was similar to Chris that if they are approving rev 'X', then it seems perverse to then change it to rev '1' to indicate that it's been approved.
However, if you have issues like us of moving from effectively uncontrolled to controlled then I can maybe see why you're doing it.
What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?
RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
(This topic should probably be in the Configuration Management forum.)
Peter Truitt
RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
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RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
Peter Truitt
RE: ASTM Y14.35M/Y14.100 and Revison change for Release to Fabrication
Customer: This drawing rev. 3 is approved.
You: Revise the drawing to 4 to somehow note approval.
Customer's inspector: We approved rev. 3. Why are you building to rev. 4? What changed? Where is our approval of rev. 4? Did you ever send rev. 4 in to us for approval? I'm not authorizing shipment of anything made to rev. 4.
You: your payment is delayed and you spend a bunch of time and money explaining your system to your customer, not that it matters, because you'll get a different inspector next time who will say the exact same thing.