Smart questions
Smart answers
Smart people
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Member Login




Remember Me
Forgot Password?
Join Us!

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips now!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

Join Eng-Tips
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Donate Today!

Do you enjoy these
technical forums?
Donate Today! Click Here

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.
Jobs from Indeed

Link To This Forum!

Partner Button
Add Stickiness To Your Site By Linking To This Professionally Managed Technical Forum.
Just copy and paste the
code below into your site.

pangolin1 (Mechanical)
7 Feb 11 18:32
I've been reading through the forums, and there's lots of great advice hinting at what I want to know, but I thought I'd start a post to ask directly: How beneficial/ detrimental would it be for me to start my career as a mechanical engineer by taking a technician job?

I graduated with my BME in May, and I've been sending out resumes for months now with no bites at all.  To my credit, I have a good GPA, some research experience and a short list of academic kudos.  On the other hand, I've no internships or prior vocational engineering experience.  

Academic requirements for technicians are an AA or less, so I've been overlooking these jobs, but I get the feeling that there is a glut of new engineers on the job market and experience counts.  I'm getting zero experience while I continue to work at my non-technical jobs, and I'd really like to be using some of what I've learned just to keep my chops up.

My biggest concern is that I'd be creating a professional dead-end for myself straight of the gate. Ideally, I'd be making professional contacts and demonstrating my aptitudes. Is there a downside? Would tech experience get noticed in future job searches, or is it too unskilled/'engineering-lite'?

Thanks in advance,
IRstuff (Aerospace)
7 Feb 11 19:22
One would have to look at the relevancy of the experience gained from the technician job.  Assuming BME means biomed eng., then a technician job in a biomed engineering firm, building prostheses or insulin pumps would at least have some relevancy.  

As with others in your situation, I would suggest that you find someone to critique your resume, cover letters, basic approach, etc. to ensure that it's not your methodology that's at fault.  Since there are new grads that are able to land jobs, you need to explore what sets you apart from them.

TTFN

FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies
Chinese prisoner wins Nobel Peace Prize

pangolin1 (Mechanical)
8 Feb 11 0:46
Thanks, IRstuff, for catching my error.  That should read 'BSME'.
 
IRstuff (Aerospace)
8 Feb 11 1:16
OK, I think the same general comments apply; i.e., if you can find a technician job that involves working with MEs, for example, that would be perhaps worthwhile.

TTFN

FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies
Chinese prisoner wins Nobel Peace Prize

huda79 (Electrical)
8 Feb 11 13:54
Hi, I think it also depends on the company. My company has a path for Technicians who want to move into Engineering after completing their BS. There are also BS holders who started off as techs and then moved into engineering when an opening came up. If there is a path to move up, it might be worth it. Hands on experience as a tech goes a long way.  
TheTick (Mechanical)
9 Feb 11 16:13
When I graduated (BSME), I had a solid resume with experience in military and as a machinist, but no engineering internships (mostly due to military obligations).  I took on a couple short contracts as a drafter to get experience in a field I wanted to be in.

When I interviewed, I made it plain to prospective employers why I took the drafting jobs.  Also, the jobs were contract positions, and it was clear that I made no false commitments or promises.

Points to remember when taking a tech job while searching for engineering job:
  • Pick something relevant to your field of interest
  • Do not make false promises
  • Contract work is a good way to stay employed and meet the right people
  • Make it clear when applying and interviewing the reason for your being in a tech job.
SteveMartin (Mechanical)
10 Feb 11 16:08
Technician jobs can't be any worse for your marketability than the non-technical one(s) you claim to have for the interim.  Depending on the potential employer it may not count for much or anything, but it shouldn't be more damaging than the current option.

 
Helpful Member!  mechengdude (Mechanical)
11 Feb 11 8:00
You make the assumption that you will get a tech. job.

Suggest you continue applying for ME jobs and also apply for the tech. jobs.

Should you land a tech. job, it can be great experience. As others have stated it is certainly better than no experience or experience that is not technical.

On the downside, it will probably be detrimental to your career at the specific company where you are hired as a tech. Once you are hired on as a tech. you will be viewed as a tech. regardless of what your degree says.
Should you land a tech job, I would continue to send out resumes to other companies for a ME job. When you hire on at the new company as an ME the new company will not have "experienced" you as a tech. so you'll always be an engineer to them.

good luck.
 
spciesla (Nuclear)
11 Feb 11 10:05
mechengdude hit it right on the head,

"it will probably be detrimental to your career at the specific company where you are hired as a tech. Once you are hired on as a tech. you will be viewed as a tech. regardless of what your degree says."

Keep applying for the engineering jobs, polishing your resume, work on your interview skills, etc.

Have you considered a field engineering position?  A lot of the work can be very "tech" like and expose you to a lot of experience in a short period of time.  The downside is a lot of travel.
pangolin1 (Mechanical)
11 Feb 11 11:02
Hey all-

Thanks for all your input.  Mechengdude and spciesla basically filled out my reservations about tech work- that there might be a cultural or institutional 'inertia' that comes with a particular job title or function that eventually gets me nowhere. But the general consensus is that this can be avoided as long as I don't get too comfortable with whatever situation I find myself in... or if I land a job in a company that provides career tracks out of the tech dept.  

It was great to get some feedback. Thanks.
vandal06 (Electrical)
11 Feb 11 12:29
To further expand on what Mechengdude and spciesla said, you can experience this interia in the other direction.  I've worked with techs before that have the education and smarts to get into engineering work, but they can't seem to find time to do that because they are so good at their technician duties.  There is literally no one to fill their shoes should they switch positions.  

So watch out, you could start at a company as a tech, excel, and switch to engineering when an opening comes but forever be seen as a tech and given priority technician work as you are deemed the only one competent enough to do it!
henri2 (Materials)
11 Feb 11 20:01
I don't know about the mech-eng field, but in civ-eng, there are many engineers who once worked as techs or CAD drafters upon graduation from college; because they were unable to land an engineering job at the time. This happens a lot in State DOTs. There'll be tech positions open but none for entry-level engineers. But once the applicant has got his/her foot in the door as a tech, they'll be one of the first in line for entry-level engineering spots.
oldfieldguy (Electrical)
13 Feb 11 12:40
In the electrical engineering field, I used to work for an electrical testing/substation construction company.  We hired many young engineers fresh out of college and put them in the field with our testing technicians for a couple of years before moving them into the engineering end of  the business.

I worked with four of these young engineers.  As I sit here today, one is vice president of the company I used to work for, one is a senior engineer having left and come back to that company, and two are senior engineers for local petrochemical plants, one as subject matter expert in electrical maintenance.

I am proud to have helped them along in some small way.

old field guy

gadkinsj (Mechanical)
15 Feb 11 13:58
BSME.  If you are not tied to anything here in the lower 48, look for Alaska jobs. I will recommend this to anyone who has trouble getting hired.  
subsearobot (Mechanical)
20 Feb 11 0:57
Working as a tech may even aid you tremendously down the road when you begin working as an engineer.  Working with your hands will give you an intuitive sense which will enable you to design practical components down the road.  You won't be the entry level engineer that designs the pentagonal-headed fastener because you have never seen a hex-head bolt.  (don't laugh- I know a guy who did just that.  he said "don't worry, we can sell the wrenches too!")



 
GregLocock (Automotive)
20 Feb 11 21:45
Oddly the Poms get around that by insisting that all mech engs do a 13 week workshop practice course. 6 weeks of that was compulsory at my uni as well.

Cheers

Greg Locock


New here? Try reading these, they might help FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies  http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm?

berkshire (Aeronautics)
21 Feb 11 0:43
Take a tech job and learn a few practical things.

What you do not, want to do, is end up like my old math teacher in college. He could do differentiation in his head, but could not change a fuse. I used to have to do that for him.
B.E.
indme (Mechanical)
10 Apr 11 4:43
Many of the most senior engineers in my company started out as techs in the 1970's before going to get BS degrees. A good company promotes or hires people into the levels where they provide the most value. If you start as a tech in one company, you'll run across someone in another company that remembers his days in that position and offers you the position of Engineer in his organization. Many of the people in management today started with less advantages than today's graduating engineer, and can appreciate the struggle.
csd72 (Structural)
12 Apr 11 7:03
In this climate I would take anything I could get if I was a graduate. Much better showing that you are keen to work rather than staying amongst the unemployed.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close