BALLOON PLACEMENT
BALLOON PLACEMENT
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Hello,
Is there a way to have all the balloons (ID Symbols) automatically be placed a certain distance outside a views border?
I'm using Auto Balloon in NX6.
James
Is there a way to have all the balloons (ID Symbols) automatically be placed a certain distance outside a views border?
I'm using Auto Balloon in NX6.
James





RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
I help myself to create a curve regtangle -
position the id symbols to the lines -
delete them
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James
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Forgive me if I'm being thick-headed but am I understanding this correctly...there's no way to have these ID Symbols automatically placed a little further away from the closest component?
James
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
The intention is to try and place the ID's as close as practical to the item being referenced but without them interfering with other annotation or any of the other components in the Drawing view. Granted, as the Component count goes up, this can become very difficult to accomplish consistently, but that's the goal.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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I'd like to ask another ID Symbol related question. Is there a way to have a component be excluded & not ballooned during the auto ballooning but still be included in the parts list? I use the "PLIST_IGNORE_MEMBER" part attribute to have items excluded from the parts list. Is there anything similar but for ballooning?
James
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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James
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Can the attribute which the system reads to fill in the ID Symbol circle have characters (other than what will be shown)which would change/drive the font size to something smaller than the system settings? The "systems settings" being "Preferences/Lettering/Character Size/.250".
James
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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What is the logic to removing this level of intellegence?
I am using 7.5.2.5 NATIVE on Dell with windows XP OS
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
I just tested one of my assembly drawings. I removed all existing balloons and then selected auto balloon from the menu system. The iso view on the sheet was updated with a balloon for each of the components in the assembly. One of the balloons is attached to a gusset on the backside of the assembly which is not fully visible in the view. I reattached the balloon leader to an identical gusset on the front side of the assembly.
However the system will allow me to attach the balloon identifying a gusset in the assembly to any of the components. I attached the gusset balloon to the base plate and then updated the parts list. No change in parts list or balloon placement. I in fact reattached all the balloons to the base plate and updated the parts list. No change.
I would not purposely attach balloons to the wrong component but it can very easily happen by accident. In some large assemblies it is sometimes hard to determine what part the balloon is really attached to. The fact that balloons can be attached to the wrong component at times undermines my confidence in assembly drawings. I have to go thru the parts list and verify that the balloons are attached correctly. Not fun.
It is hard to believe that this is really how the software is suppose to function. My first assumption is that I have a setting wrong or I am doing something else wrong. Am I reattaching balloons incorrectly? I double click on the leader and choose another terminating object.
I should mention that the drawing in in the assembly file. I know master model is the preferred method. I am seriously contemplating using a separate drawing file but I'm not there yet.
Any light you can shed on this is appreciated.
I am using 7.5.2.5 NATIVE on Dell with windows XP OS
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Im having problem with autoballoon not balloning all the parts in a view when i rightclick the view and click autoballoon. Thats why i wanted to try your manual instructions.
I have this problem in broken views.
RE: BALLOON PLACEMENT
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Automatic ballons do NOT change the number if re-attached.
Manual ballons change the number if re-attached. ( on update partslist)
I have found no option to highligt the difference on which ballon is automatic / manual.
Note, that if you RMB the partslist ( instead of the view) you can select multiple views for NX to create the ballons in, it usually helps on the question where leaders get attached to almost invisible objects, or ballons missing.
Regards,
Tomas