NCEES Record
NCEES Record
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How many out there have their NCEES Record set up?
I am applying for licensure in a few states and it seems like every time I turn around there is another charge.
Isn't this "Record" supposed to save money?
I am applying for licensure in a few states and it seems like every time I turn around there is another charge.
Isn't this "Record" supposed to save money?






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Are you saying that you have a record and that NCEES charges you every time you apply to another state?
I believe it is only suppose to speed up the application process. Some states have you fill out a ridiculous amount of paperwork. They want to know everything and it can be a PITA to get all of the references. With the NCEES record you just fill out the top page and then send the board you record. So I believe it is suppose to be a speed thing not a money saving thing.
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Yes, I have a record. Then when I told NCEES, via their website, to send my record to another state, they wanted $60.
Not sure if this was for NCEES, or the other state.
It was originally $100 to set up the Record.
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From what I have seen, you will still need to fill out some paperwork from the state that you are applying to. You may want to look into that. Just sending them your NCEES record will not cut it.... and you will still have to pay their application fee as well.
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When you want to apply for another state, you fill out the information sheet for that states application and pay $60 to NCEES to have your record transmitted. It saves you having to get references, transcripts, and document work history. It is a huge time saver and expedites the review process.
Details are posted at http://www.ncees.org/Records/How_Records_works.php
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Initial set up of the records is very tedious as they pretty much want every minute details of your professional career. Once you have an approved record with them, it is a big help though with comity licensing. 2 big time savers are the transcript and references requirement of every State.
Without the NCEES records, you'll have to request your transcript from your school every time you apply in another State. Then if your degree is not ABET accredited, you'll have to get and pay for a transcript evaluation. Some States will accept a previously done evaluation but some will ask for a new one if you don't have the NCEES records. That can easily become expensive.
With references, you'll almost always have to get a fresh set of references if you don't have the records as most States would not accept old references with letterhead / form from another State.
NCEES also started negotiating with foreign jurisdictions for acceptance of their records program for comity licensing. So if you're planning to practice overseas, it's a big plus.
It's a sweet revenue generator for NCEES but I think it is money well spent for someone thinking about practicing in multiple states.
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Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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Man, you sure have been around the block.
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i just can't see the benefit to society having all these redundant organizations. it's not like they're talking to each other. if i get in big trouble in Nevada, it is my duty to tell South Carolina that i'm a crappy engineer. Imagine someone going to prison for armed bank robbery and being able to buy an assault rifle in another state as long as he swears he never was a felon.... Sure i can see an argument that we should practice in regions that we are familiar with, BUT the current system that we have does not test our ability to work there except for the seismic that i already addressed.
The NCEES Records program is the closest thing we've got to getting through all this crap. it is actually a little more expensive because there is a transfer fee. but you save a lot of your time and others by keeping you from having to constantly bug people for references. I hope everybody uses or continue to use the records program to the point that one day we just open the Federal Department of Engineers office out of Clemson University (NCEES Records HQ) and we Engineers can focus more energy on doing better REAL work.
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The best state I ran into was Maryland. All done over the Internet, payments, NCEES record transfer, application, etc. Basically, I was instantly registered and got mail confirmation 3 days later.
However - next door in Washington DC - everything had to be done by hand and mailed in. Took about 3 months. Hopefully , that has changed by now.
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Besides, if you ever need to get licensed in a hurry in some state, the NCEES record will help.
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But states rights vs federal is as old as, well, the country, and not likely to change. NCEES may be the closest thing we can get to get all 50 states and Guam and Puerto Rico and ... all on board one ship. Doctors and lawyers and others have the same complaints. I have seen some egregious examples of medical licenses where some bad docs just move state to state with no national record following them.
Similar discussions have been had on this board also about having discipline specific PEs (mechanical, electrical, structural, civil, geotech, etc.). My dad is a medical tech at a hospital and their license is now federal. They also used to have to take 5 different licensing exams for each area they wanted to be responsible for, so I am not sure why they can do it and engineers could not. Sure there is cost in coming up with all of the different tests and licenses but those are passed on to us anyway.