Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
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I have a meeting tomorrow to discuss value engineering ideas for a proposal I have been working on. This is a new plant on a clean site, though it is part of an existing refinery. We have been asked to think of "outside the box" ideas that could save money but that are still acceptable from an engineering standpoint.
One idea that has been mentioned is to possibly do all of the structural steel fireproofing on site, which would save money on transportation and loading/unloading, etc. This seems reasonable to me, at least to consider.
Can anyone give me any other ideas that either you have employed successfully or maybe that are worth considering? Just looking for ideas that are maybe a little out of the norm for a typical refinery-type project.
Thanks in advance!
I have a meeting tomorrow to discuss value engineering ideas for a proposal I have been working on. This is a new plant on a clean site, though it is part of an existing refinery. We have been asked to think of "outside the box" ideas that could save money but that are still acceptable from an engineering standpoint.
One idea that has been mentioned is to possibly do all of the structural steel fireproofing on site, which would save money on transportation and loading/unloading, etc. This seems reasonable to me, at least to consider.
Can anyone give me any other ideas that either you have employed successfully or maybe that are worth considering? Just looking for ideas that are maybe a little out of the norm for a typical refinery-type project.
Thanks in advance!






RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
It's a long time since I worked on refinery design but I don't remember ever fireproofing the steel except in the office building.
Any value engineering benefit is likely to be obtained from adaptation to local materials and skills availability.
Michael.
Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
Mike McCann
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RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
If you can use readily available (or on-hand) sections, that might avoid waiting for rolling schedules.
Big picture VE is different than optimizing section weights.
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
Can the structure be made any simpler?
Can the number of different trades on site be minimised by either fabricating offsite or changing some parts to another material.
Can sections be fabricated on site and then lifted into place at height? ten 10ton crane lifts take a lot less than 50 2ton lifts.
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed
Michael.
Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
RE: Petrochemical Projects - Value Engineering Ideas Needed