Engineering Graphics and Drawing
Engineering Graphics and Drawing
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I need "Mechanical Engineering- Graphics and Drawing(or equivalent courses) Syllabii of the following universities. I need especially course objectives. Anyone help me plz.? (I couldn't find it from web sites)
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California, Berkeley
4 University of Cambridge
5 California Institute of Technology
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California, Berkeley
4 University of Cambridge
5 California Institute of Technology





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indeed i had found thisbefore. That's why i'm complicated.
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Like this: ht
CAD was a guy with poor manners. What computer?
Ted
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If that's your definition of CAD, you ain't no spring chicken, and may well be one of those few dozen remaining who actually took that class and can still post here.
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When these students come out into the real world,with no training to visualise ,they are in a mess. It is imperative,that they are given the training in engineering drawing exhaustively, so that they they use all the advanced soft ware tools effectively in their professional lives. Is this utopian?
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Use of system voids warranty.
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Just go to the schools web sites. All of these schools have complete course listings available online. Like most people are saying engineering programs typically don't offer courses in 2D drawing. Sometimes if you look at the engineering tech course listings you can find some GD&T courses that cover some more of the drawing principles. That was how RIT does it, MEs just learn a particular CAD package while the METech program offered some of the more basic drawing principles.
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Obscure at university, certainly not required. Surveying is similar, easier to find at community college or technical high school.
When at HVCC I cross registered for a course at RPI. At HVCC surveying meant bunches of Civvies around the quad, buckets of stakes, contemporary laser transits & poles. At RPI: 3 guys w/ antique equipment doing it as an independant study.
I think my dad had to take surveying when he transferred to EE from physics at CU, '61 or so.
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You from the capitol district area of NY?
And yeah I forgot that option, community schools or trade schools often still teach drawing. It's funny how sometimes you get more options at the cheaper schools.
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yes i'm posting from outside the United States.
Thanks guys for your attention.
The course seems so different in the US by comparison Europe.
But i think it still hasn't a common standard. A research shows the case In 2004,(Turkey National Engineering Congress)
The US and EU(universities that accredited by ABET)
only Eng.Dwg.: %33
Eng.Dwg.& CAD: %39
only CAD: %28
I have no idea for 2010 and i'd just like to learn this.
And second question:
You m.engineers, can you read a technical drawing paper exactly?
Also some schools doestn't have such courses...
anyone graduated from?
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Fast forward 30 years.....I've been involved in recommending college curricula as a former instructor and a continuing member of advisory councils for university applications....we do not "waste" time in the curricula for such fundamentals....that is left to the "technicians" not the engineers. Fundamentally, there should still be coursework in this area, as it is necessary for engineers to understand drawings; however, there is little room in a prescribed engineering curriculum for such. It has simply become an elective that few will elect.
Blame it on the accreditation process!!
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The young CADD literate jocks marvel when I can sit down with a piece of paper and free hand 3 views of something that has to be cut, assembled, welded, etc that a shop can actually build from.
They can do it on CADD, but I can't.
rmw
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Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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Maybe engineers shouldn't have to know how to prepare a drawing to ASME (or ISO, depending on location) specs, but they should damn well know how to read/interpret one. Unfortunately, many that I've met do not know either.
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Hopefully that was not the cornerstone of your argument.
Cheers
Greg Locock
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What I see now with people using this forum is the inability to properly hand sketch which is a shame.
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MECH-100 Engineering Graphical Communication
This computer aided design and drafting course is an introduction to
engineering graphics and visualization with topics to include sketching, line
drawing, wire-frame section development and elements of solid modeling.
Also, this course will include the development and interpretation of drawings
and specifications for product realization. CAD, office, and web-based
software will be used in student presentations and analysis.
MECH-300 Computer Aided Engineering
This is a threaded continuation of MECH-100, Engineering Graphical
Communication using computer graphics and computer aided design
techniques. These advanced techniques use graphics primitives, construction
functions, transformations, image control, dimensioning and layers. Both
two-dimensional drawings and three-dimensional wireframe, surface
modeling, and simulation modeling such as FEA and kinematic motion are
covered.
Mech-100 is required for most technical disciplines offered, and both are required courses for ME.
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Engineering Design Graphics: This course is an introduction to graphical communication as a tool in documenting the results of an engineering design. Emphasis is placed on the use of Computer Aided Drafting and 3-D Solid Modeling systems to prepare working drawings packages of basic components and assemblies. Students combine the practice of sketching along with computer-based solid modeling to produce a parametric design. At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to prepare working drawings, with appropriate views, title blocks, and bill of materials. Lab 4, Credit 2
I didn't end up needing to take this as I learned both solid modeling and 2d drafting through courses I took while still in high school, so I can't speak to its contents. By description it seems to emphasize the use of software to communicate, not just as raw 3D design.
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Also,
gadkinsj, what is so amazing about the engineering in a Pontiac Aztec? Along the lines of what Greg said, I am pretty sure the Aztec was just some marketing guys idea. They just designed a hideous body for the car, then gave it to engineers to plop in what I am sure is the same crap as what is in every other Pontiac of that time period to make it drivable.
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I think the original post should probably be flagged, however it has resulted in some productive discussion on the education system.
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There followed 2 years part time for a Ordinary National Certificate in Mechanical Engineering which included Engineering Drawing in the first year, but this was really for students who hadn't got their "O" Level.
Finally, there was 3 years part time for a Higher National Diploma which included Engineering Drawing in the first year for those who joined the course with "A" Levels. (Those of us with an ONC did Physics rather than Engineering Drawing)
There were no computers and certainly no CAD!
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:)
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thread730-282775: 2D drawing nearly dead?
What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?
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Off-topic a little but I'm wondering about that ranking list and just how valid the criteria are for a meaningful ranking? Cambridge university at 22nd and Oxford University at 41st position caught my eye, so I looked a bit more deeply. I'm not sure that quality of education is one of the criteria used in this ranking, visibility on the web and availability of internet documents seemingly being more important. A strange list. http://www.webometrics.info/about_rank.html
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ME 117 MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DESIGN GRAPHICS
F,S 1 cr. LEC 1
PREREQUISITE: ME and MET majors only, or consent of instructor.
-- Introductory course developing freehand sketching and computer aided modeling techniques for mechanical engineering design graphics. Skills will be developed for sketching and interpreting dimensioned multi-view drawings, tolerancing, specifications, pictorials, and assemblies for mechanical designs.
ME 118 MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DESIGN GRAPHICS LABORATORY
F,S 1 cr. LAB 1
PREREQUISITE: ME and MET majors only, or consent of instructor.
COREQUISITE: ME 117, or ME 115 or consent of instructor.
-- Hands-on laboratory experience in three-dimensional and parametric constraint-based modeling for mechanical engineering design.
In HS, in the 90's, I took drafting, with actual pencils and vellum. Now, I'm enrolled here at MSU and essentially this is the extent of the technical drawing, with an additional CAM course later in the curriculum.
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After I spent a few years in the Navy and was taking clases ar Bradley in Peoria, I was shocked that none of the graduating engineering students had ever taken a drafting class.
More recently a recent grad from GaTech told me he only had a couple basic drafting clases prior to college.
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I'd base mine on the number of hours spent testing steam engines in the work shop, far more fun and relevant.
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You from the capitol district area of NY?"
Parents were. Went to happy valley, 'the grove' and troy public library, i mean pub and brewery and split time between Troy and Scotia w/ the grandparents, 93-95.
"And yeah I forgot that option, community schools or trade schools often still teach drawing. It's funny how sometimes you get more options at the cheaper schools."
I felt very comfortable with my fundamentals when I transferred to SUNY Buffalo. For the most part, at HVCC the professors knew the material and teaching better then a 25 year old TA.