OS options and NX performance ....
OS options and NX performance ....
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I'm looking to get a new workstation and this is heavily on my mind. I don't see much posted here on the topic...
Win 7 64...
Linux..
Mac...
I've always neen Win Pro but its so targeted by online bugs and with registry corruption issues... they tend to get weaker over time.
Anyone have experience to offer me?
TIA Dave
Win 7 64...
Linux..
Mac...
I've always neen Win Pro but its so targeted by online bugs and with registry corruption issues... they tend to get weaker over time.
Anyone have experience to offer me?
TIA Dave





RE: OS options and NX performance ....
I just ordered a new HP laptop with a Nvidia graphics card, 8GB RAM and Win7x64 Professional. While not an enginering one, it should be good.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
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Apple tends to integrate and control their products to a higher degreee than the Wintel machines. Plus, most Wintel laptops are made in the same chinese factory. One day HP, the next Lenova, the next Compaq. Might even be more frequent switching.
In the 60's, GM's Linden, NJ, assembly plant made made Chevroloet, Cadillac and Buicks one after the other coming down the line. It is all in the inventory control and queing of parts.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
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Some of the jobs I'm working on are killing me as I approach the end. I design a lot of large stamping tools and fastening usually takes place at the end. As those features accumulate things just seem to start slowing down badly. Constantly updating links etc... It takes minutes just to make a componet the "work part"
Maybe I can manage some of that a little better but the hardware and OS needs to rock too.
Dave
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I'm running a Dell Prec 670 with dual xeon 3.2ghz chips and 4gb of memory.
I've got the NX EV set to use two chips and the 3gb memory switch on for XP Pro.
My work is just demanding I guess.
Dave
RE: OS options and NX performance ....
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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This was bad eh?
RE: OS options and NX performance ....
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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NX 7.5.0.32 MoldWizard
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Dave
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Best regards,
Michäël.
NX4+TC9 / NX6+TC8Unified / NX7.5 native
RE: OS options and NX performance ....
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: OS options and NX performance ....
It looks like my answer for now is going to be installing Win 7 64 on my current box. I'm running a Dell Prec 670 thats as hot as these boxes were ever configured. In addition to normal registry slow down this thing was once scared by a virus and never really the same after.
I wanna see what this yeilds. If it's dissapointing I'll get another and hand this one down. lol
Dave
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Now that I changed that setting solid bodies display pretty course. It's not the end of the world but sometimes it's hard to see finer relationships in edge contours.
Is there a setting to adjust that?
Dave
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if youre planning to do a clean install of Win7 x64, and running all your files localy, maybey a faster harddisk could serve your needs, i'm thinking of a SSD, or 15k RPM harddisk if the SSD is to expensive.
Best regards,
Michäël.
NX4+TC9 / NX6+TC8Unified / NX7.5 native
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That would probably be the next step. How much of a factor is the hard disk after bumping memory to 8G and above?
You think it would be well spent $?
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8GB RAM, will be commited as 3GB or more for the system and the rest to the programs, but your parts won't be loaded in the memory but directly from and to your HD. Thus the faster the HD the quicker loading/saving times. Once loaded then the amount of RAM will kick in.
Best regards,
Michäël.
NX4+TC9 / NX6+TC8Unified / NX7.5 native
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Partial loads take place at the initial open... then finish as you work with the parts.
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John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Thanks.
Best regards,
Michäël.
NX4+TC9 / NX6+TC8Unified / NX7.5 native
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So again, our position is, until you encounter something which you can NOT do as the system came out-of-the-box, there is NO real reason to change any of those settings. Granted, you may have to adjust your expectations with respect to the something like the precise, or in this case, the less than precise appearance of Components in an Assembly, but when you consider the improvement in performance and throughput, it will be something which should become a non-issue in a very short period of time.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Still very early but I can't say it feels all that solid. In fact it feels a little flakey. Don't think I would want to use it.
Looking for performance tweeks now... video, drivers etc...
Dell Precision 670
Xeon 3.6 ghz X 2
Quadro FX 3400
4 gig ram
500 gig SATA HD
If anyones done it on an older station like this and has some wisdom... feel free to share.
TIA
Dave
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Installed shelved (but supported) FX1700 and it fixed all the sytem instability.
Thanks to all for the input!
Dave
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The LW reps do take some getting used to but the performance gains appear to be worth it.
I've got to sometimes draft my work... do I need to change the load ops for that ir will LW be ok???
Dave
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Long term, we're working on being able to better draft lightweight models which will improve the performance of Drafting as well as reduce the memory required when creating Drawings of large complex Assemblies.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Those Dell machines are DOGS compared to almost anything else and I never could help them out much. Windows 7-64 seems to improve them slightly, though we no longer use NX on them. For $2200 I replaced each with custom white-box Corei7 machines that benchmark 33% faster.
NX is VERY hard drive intensive. You can download ATTO (freeware) to benchmark hard drives, but be careful because the more important metrics are the first few lines showing very small reads and writes, rather than the larger files that expose the maximum performance.
If you have a gigabit network and a decent fileserver, try working from the network since it may be faster than your local disk! Gigabit networks can top out around 120MBps if the server is capable (a big if).
NX 7.5.0.32 MoldWizard
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NX 7.5.0.32 MoldWizard
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I'll be doing the SSD drive soon. Looknig forward to what kind of difference it may make.
Thanks for all the info!
Dave
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I've arrived at deseigning in assembly context and found issues that hurt me with the lightweight.
1. Can't select control points or faces to place the coordinate system on.
2. Can't lay down basic curves in the assembly due to no control point access.
I could maybe adjust some of my design methods with the basic curves but not being able to place the work coordinate system at will in the assembly is a killer.
Looks like I may need to go back to exact models but I'll be able to use LW to my advantage in some circumstances.
Looking forward to more enhancments cause the performance gains are significant.
Dave
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I have no problems selecting Points (Control-, Mid-, End-, Arc Center-, Quadrant-, etc.) or Faces (Planar) when Orienting the WCS. Or slecting points when specifying the Origin of the WCS. Check that the Snap Point options are enabled for the types of point that you're attempting to select as well as making sure that the Selection Scope option on the Selection Bar is set 'Entire Assembly'.
If you use the curve options on the newer 'Lines and Arcs Toolbar', everything works as expected. However, the old 'Basic Curves' function is all but obsolete and officially we consider them as having been replaced by the newer 'Lines and Arcs'. I suggest that learn to use the new tools as there are NO plans to make any changes to the 'Basic Curves' dialog and/or functionality.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.