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Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling
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Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
Hi all,
Im trying to brush up on my parametric CAD skills, something i havent done much of since college, and im looking for samples of working drawings which i can attempt to make a 3d model of.

Im using T-Flex (not willing to pay for Pro-E or Solid works) which has some good tutorials but nothing i can really work with.

If anyone has some links to useful websites or working drawings of your own which you would like to share that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

If you're just getting started then I would recommend grabbing something and drawing it.  Sit down with a beer and model the bottle.   

Dan

www.eltronresearch.com
Dan's Blog

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Try to find some older Drafting textbooks, they were full of castings and other exercises. That's what I did when I started using SolidWorks 2001 plus...

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RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Have not heard of T-Flex.
Is there a forum for this application?

Chris
SolidWorks 10 SP4.0
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

And the older the drafting textbook the better.  One guy in our office has one from 1936 that he picked-up at a used-book store for a couple of bucks.  It's full of beautiful hand-drawn 3D pictorial illustrations, many of them simple mechanical parts and small assemblies from things like lathe/machine-tool, pumps, farm implements, etc.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Many manufacturers/suppliers have downloadable datasheets of their products.  

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Machine design book from your Uni would be a gud option. I saw a training institute running an advanced course which concentrate on best practices etc. using examples from these books.

 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
I have found two small drawings already with google image where the dim's are still legible, but im looking for more.

I though there might have been an online resource that i didnt know about.

The old books are a good idea, but short of finding one on eBay, i dont think i will get one

I will start trawling some suppliers websites for downloadable drawings, forgot about that. Any suggestions?

This is more of a hobby of mine than anything else, i have some limited use for it in work, but im doing it at home out of interest.

T-Flex has a free student version for download. its comparable to Pro E and solid works in many respects (in my limited experience) and is the only parametric CAD alternative ive found.

http://www.tflex.com/design/index.htm

Thanks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

McMaster-Carr.  You can get product drawings (general dimensions only) and for a lot of items you can get a solid model.  This would allow you to compare your modeling to the target.  3DContent Central is great for SWX models.

The SWX tutorials are must if you are just starting out.

- - -Updraft

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Start modeling the gizmos you are interested in making. I have found that my interest stays on track a bit longer when I am actually makeing / modeling the gizmos I want for my self. If you make mistakes it is easier to either start over or edit the model you made, if you have some self interest in the project. You will make mistakes but will be more tolerent on yourself under these conditions.

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

You can download free educational versions of AutoDesk products, including Inventor at students.autodesk.com. These have 3 years licenses.

Much better to spend time learning one of the main stream CAD systems, then T-Flex.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
Core i7 EE965, FirePro V8700, 12 Gb RAM, OCZ Vertex 120 Gb SSD, Dell 3008WFP 30" Monitor
SW2010 SP2.1, Windows 7 x64
http://www.solidmuse.com
http://www.phxswug.com

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
Ok,
After a LOT of searching the best i can find is below. The first link has numerous drawings, the others are links to just one drawing.
They are the only fully dimesnioned drawings i can find with google.

I also thought i should start with some of the 3d model examples that come with T-Flex, create 2d projections of those and then redo the whole thing from the dimensioned drawings. There are definately some more interesting models there.

Links

Best
http://www.joycedayton.com/Downloads/Software_Drawings/Dimensioned_2D_Drawings.aspx

http://3dmodelexpress.com/gallery/Exampledraft5.jpg

http://www.minibooster.com/00_cad-files/0-315-issue-02_uk.gif

http://www.deftracing.com/aerocatch_hood_pins/images/aerocatch_latch_dimensions_flush.jpg

hopefully anyone else with a similar problem will find the links and info useful

Thanks for the comments, please continue posting any links or even drawings which may be useful

Robby

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Quote:

I have found two small drawings already with google image ...

I am sure there is plenty of information available on the internet, but also most towns, cities and schools have a building called, "The Library".  Many students these days are not familiar with this building but it is likely to have many drafting books with the information you seek. For free!

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
Firstly,
Not a student anymore (read above)

Second,
Im pretty sure that the small town library near me does not have 3D modelling in parametric CAD books lying around. My college library definitely does (but im no longer a student remember), but not the one where i live.

The library has been ruled out

 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

rollupswx,
Seemed like a low blow to others intelligence here!

Chris
SolidWorks 10 SP4.0
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Your local library may have older 2D drafting texts, use those along with the help from your 3D cad system to get your practice. Not much in the way of 3D cad modeling in 1936.

Peter Stockhausen
Senior Design Analyst (Checker)
Infotech Aerospace Services
www.infotechpr.net

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
Not absolutely of topic, useful for brushing up on details maybe.

It is a good resource, just not for detailed models which i could practice on.

I have started modelling/designing some new equipment at work anyway, should keep me occupied.

Thanks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Here are a couple of examples of the types of images which you should be working with if you really wanted to learn how to create 3D models:



John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

(OP)
Hit the nail right on the head. That is perfect.

TY very much

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Note that these were taken from my Freshman year's Drafting textbook.  And since in those days they were attempting to teach students how to create 2D drawings you couldn't give them examples showing 3 or 4 Orthographic projected views.  After all, that was the deliverable that the student was expected to produce, therefore you had to provide illustrations, such as these, from which the student had to learn how to then represent the model as 3 or 4 2D Orthographic projections with perhaps a couple of section views thrown in for good measure.  Now some 40+ years later, while the deliverable may be different, the types of material suitable as a starting point really has not had any need to change.

That being said, look around for some of those old text books.  If you don't go back that far yourself, ask some of your older fellow employees or even your parents or other family members, or as I first suggested, go visit that local used book store.  BTW, the older the textbook the better the illustrations I think, if nothing else they're often more interesting.  Again, as I mentioned before, one of the guys I work with has a Drafting textbook from the 30's and these illustrations could be framed and hung up as 'art'.

Anyway, glad I could help.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Here is a link to one such book via googlebooks.  This is the quintessential drafting book of the early days... French was the author.

http://books.google.com/books?id=1yBIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA214&dq=engineering+drawings+french&hl=en&ei=5SOmTPacN4GosAPFqaX9Dg&sa=X&;oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false  

-Dustin
Professional Engineer
Pretty good with SolidWorks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Now that's what I was talking about and starting on about page 186 there are several examples which might work for anyone looking for ideas to practice on.

However, the book does give away it age a bit when you check out what's on page 42.  I suspect that you would never see anything like that in any Drafting textbook published in the last 70 years.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Great example of what the OP should be looking for Dustin.

Peter Stockhausen
Senior Design Analyst (Checker)
Infotech Aerospace Services
www.infotechpr.net

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Quote:


However, the book does give away it age a bit when you check out what's on page 42.  I suspect that you would never see anything like that in any Drafting textbook published in the last 70 years.

geez... I have to agree.  I didn't scroll through it that thoroughly on the first go through.  I should have looked for a book dated after 1944 I guess.

-Dustin
Professional Engineer
Pretty good with SolidWorks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Dustin,

The older drafting books are better.  The old school techniques are good to understand.  CAD just automates the old school processes.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
Core i7 EE965, FirePro V8700, 12 Gb RAM, OCZ Vertex 120 Gb SSD, Dell 3008WFP 30" Monitor
SW2010 SP2.1, Windows 7 x64
http://www.solidmuse.com
http://www.phxswug.com

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Anna,
I couldn't agree more.  Beautiful works of art.  Check out the link and page 42 and you will see why I referenced 1944.

-Dustin
Professional Engineer
Pretty good with SolidWorks

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Fig. E-21.11 No clearance between Shaft-Steel and Valve Housing.
No clearance between Valve-Steel and Valve Housing.   And I haven't even started to 3D model to find what other problems there might be.  Pretty art doesn't make it work.  But there is no reason why modern 3D modeling cannot also be artful.  
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Those illustrations were created before anyone attempted to fully document a part's design (those images were taken from a 40+ year old textbook), including manufacturing tolerances, from an isometric view (of course today we have PMI so that would now be a moot point).  Those illustrations were used a part of a 'Drawing' assignment with the assumption that only nominal dimensions were being shown.  I would expect that the application of appropriate tolerances would have been part of the assignment given to the 'student'.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Need sample working drawings for 3d madelling

Have been through this search myself

There's IVWC (Inventor World Cup) which is PDF's of mech drawings of different objects. Click on the "IVNGWC (dated).zip" files. You can also dig through the contest results and see how fast some people can build things. This is good exercise because you can build the model then make a drawing from it with the original to compare.

http://worldcup.teknigroup.com/worldcupfiles.asp

then there's Trace Parts which is a huge database of cad drawings of manufactured parts. You have to register (free) and do some digging to find parts worth drawing but it's a large resource.

http://www.tracepartsonline.net/%28S%28lnkbu355fsp4h455vwgizd2j%29%29/global/index.aspx?lang=en


 

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