Client's client and on-site inspection
Client's client and on-site inspection
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I do building inspections for a client on an as-needed basis. The inspections are real simple, I get a tour of the building and then write a report on the building.
Today, the client's client informed me that they want to be present for all building inspections. I did one this morning and the client's client told me exactly what to inspect and what not to inspect. I've done a large number of these and don't really need someone telling me how to do my job. Client's client is one that likes to be in charge.
Have you had experiences with this? I enjoy doing the work but less so when somebody gets bossy and decides they have to tell me to do my job.
Have you had experiences with this? How have you handled the situation? Any ethical concerns when the client's client micromanages a project?
Today, the client's client informed me that they want to be present for all building inspections. I did one this morning and the client's client told me exactly what to inspect and what not to inspect. I've done a large number of these and don't really need someone telling me how to do my job. Client's client is one that likes to be in charge.
Have you had experiences with this? I enjoy doing the work but less so when somebody gets bossy and decides they have to tell me to do my job.
Have you had experiences with this? How have you handled the situation? Any ethical concerns when the client's client micromanages a project?





RE: Client's client and on-site inspection
This is slowing me down and causing me to take longer to get my reports in. My client wants everything in ASAP and gives more work to engineers that quickly turn reports in. In this case, the client's clients demands are risking my reputation with my client.
RE: Client's client and on-site inspection
$100 / hour
$200 / hour if you watch
$400 / hour if you help
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
RE: Client's client and on-site inspection
The man who pays the piper calls the tune.
Your client pays you. His client pays him. Take your instructions from your client after rationally discussing your concerns. It is really up to your client as to how much you should do for his and to advise you what costs in time and fees he will accept for any extras.
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If your client is ok with that then you should be happy with the extra billable hours.
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Are we talking about due diligence property condition assessments?
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And as for accompanying on the inspection, I personally don't like someone looking over my shoulder, but understand their concerns. However, if they interfere with the inspection in any way, I first issue a verbal warning. If they do not comply, I leave. I only had to to this once in the past, but never had a problem with that client again. Point made.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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RE: Client's client and on-site inspection
I can say the reason a PE is involved is because a certain entity wants an outside person not affilated with the project to inspect and report on what has been done.
My feeling is the same as IRStuff. Having the client's client on site providing direction (even if only limited) goes against the intent of an independent inspection.
I'll have to tread carefully...I have another inspection on Wednesday. This client's client is very skilled at micromanaging and is very hard to say no to their requests.
Of course, observing the inspection is a reasonable and I'll certainly accomodate that request.
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TTFN
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Is Your inspecting agreement based on Your clients "verbal" or "written" check list?
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