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Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

(OP)
There does not appear to be a requirement for the building owner to maintain a copy of NFPA 25 or a log book on site in the 2008 edition. I see where records are to be maintained and made available to the AHJ. Even as I look back to the 2002 and 1998 edition I don't see this requirement, yet somehow I notice that this has been carried forward over the years from somewhere. See attached AFSA cover page, items 5 and 6  for example.

Regards
Dave

RE: Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

(OP)
I just received a call from NFPA and they state the obvious; that it would be somewhat of a conflict of interests to write the code and then determine that the code SHALL be maintained on site. This begs the question though - why did AFSA have it in their inspection reports where a "NO" is presumably a deficiency?

Regards
Dave

RE: Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

The NFPA 13 requires that after a fire sprinkler installations is completed a copy of the NFPA 25 is left on site however during an annual NFPA 25 Fire Sprinkler Inspection it is not required to note on the report if a copy is present at the time of the inspection. You must understand that AFSA and NFSA are conflicting associations. For example:
AFSA is non-union
NFSA is union

AFSA has such requirement on reports
NFSA does not

AFSA does not requires to identify recall products on reports.
NFSA does

Bottom line the absence of a copy of NFPA 25 is not a deficiency
Recall products could cause systems not to perform as design.

Just recent a sprinkler contractor in NY was order to payback customer all money paid plus attorney's fees just because the contractor wrote such requirement as a deficiency when in fact it is not.  

RE: Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

NFPA 13 Overhead Acceptance form has for years required the conractor to give the owner a copy of NFPA 25, formally 13A.

That's why AFSA form asks for it, I assume.

Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire

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