Structural Steel Shop Drawings
Structural Steel Shop Drawings
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Hello all.
I am just wondering what the typical shop drawing review process' are in your firms. We typically request that structural steel shop drawings (both fabrication and erection) be sealed by a Professional Engineer. I am wondering if this is out of the norm when compared to other firms. Is this a bit stringent or no? I see how it certainly relieves the consulting engineer of problems down the road but also drives up the cost for the steel supplier/fabricator.
Your thoughts on this are appreciated.
I am just wondering what the typical shop drawing review process' are in your firms. We typically request that structural steel shop drawings (both fabrication and erection) be sealed by a Professional Engineer. I am wondering if this is out of the norm when compared to other firms. Is this a bit stringent or no? I see how it certainly relieves the consulting engineer of problems down the road but also drives up the cost for the steel supplier/fabricator.
Your thoughts on this are appreciated.






RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
If the design is complete with no delegation, no signing and sealing is required.
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
In fact a particular subcontractor refused to sign them because they would go against the code of ethics of his province. The logic being that the shop drawings did not have an 'engineering act' (they were simple and basically cut and paste from design drawings) and signing them would imply that he performed an engineering act. On consultations with the regulatory body, they agreed with him.
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
IMHO the intent of requiring a connection engineer is based primarily on the need for the additional review of shop drawings. A second professional review, with a primary focus on the connection details. The expectation is that this additional review will catch changes made intentionally or accidentally by the detailer/fabricator. (Hyatt collapse)
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RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
There is also the possibility that you as the designer have made an error and this is another step where it might be picked up.
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
RE: Structural Steel Shop Drawings
Yes, delegated engineering work can help the liability position of the engineer of record. Not necessarily directly, but at the least the EOR's specific reliance on the delegate engineer would allow the EOR a potential for subrogation against the delegate engineer, in the event of a valid claim.