Questions for Mechanical engineer technologist
Questions for Mechanical engineer technologist
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Any of you guys ME technologists?
Ive been an ME tech for about 6 years designing machines and i love it..but i would like to perfect myself and thinking of taking some extra course at Uni.(maybe some kinematics and some structural courses)
Just wondering if you guys ever felt the need to get a few extra engineering courses at Uni wich and which ones?
Ive been an ME tech for about 6 years designing machines and i love it..but i would like to perfect myself and thinking of taking some extra course at Uni.(maybe some kinematics and some structural courses)
Just wondering if you guys ever felt the need to get a few extra engineering courses at Uni wich and which ones?





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I think the courses you might want to take really depend on what sort of changes you want to make in your career.
My experience has been that many uni courses have prerequisites, presenting some significant barriers to entry. Also, my former university didn't admit people on a course by course basis.. you had to be in a full or part time degree program to take the courses. There were courses offered as part of the "continuing education" department, but most of these were focused around project management and not techie stuff like structures or kinematics. I'm positive that there are other universities out there that are not so restrictive in their admission policies, but it's still something to watch out for.
Also, you may not want to focus solely on university courses. Colleges have some great courses as well that can serve towards your professional development. Again, it all really depends on what you're looking for down the road.
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Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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If you are considering a full graduate degree (which I am), it's a bit harder. You may be required to take a prerequisite or two. But again, they are usually willing to listen.
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Without the upgrade, taking classes doesn't benefit you.
Fe
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Taking classes can be of benefit regardless of whether it ever leads to a degree. There may not be a monetary reward associated to a handful of courses, but the knowledge obtained should be useful regardless.
I hope we are all continuing to increase our knowledge over our years. Structured courses are one of the ways that can be done. We might argue over the relative efficiency of classes vs. other methods, but I'd hate to think there was an arguement that classes are not useful.
RBX,
I don't fall into the technologist label, but I would think your work would indicate areas you would potentially like to know more about or otherwise don't fully understand. Look for classes that might bridge that knowledge gap.
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It's good to see the willingness exists.
Fe
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I had the same number of machine design, materials and physics courses as my friends with BA in ME.
I think it would more geared towards some structural courses as i think its lacking at both level (ME and MET.)
Just on a side note
I dont really like the description given by
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I design machines from A to Z with NO input from any ME "sorry had to get that one of my chest":)
I just read alot of misguided descriptions of MET.
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I think the quality (or content, rather) of an engineering technology program varies significantly between schools, which is where the stereotype comes from. There are some schools from which a graduate is qualified to be a technician, and some schools from which a graduate is qualified to be an engineer. If I were to do it over again, I'd probably study engineering, just to make some things (Master degree, PE) easier. But I think that aside from making these things a bit easier, I wouldn't be much better off.
If you don't want to go all the way to a second degree, you may consider an academic certificate. Some schools offer these, but not all. It is 4-5 courses in a specialized area. Afterward you get some paper that says you completed it. I like to equate it to a graduate level minor. I don't know that it's thought of any higher than taking a few random courses... but at least you have something to show your employer.
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Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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I am a mechanical engineering technologist in Canada, and I have a three year diploma. There is a path from technologist with three year diploma, to Professional Engineer, but I have not looked into it. The PEO would hand me a list of courses to take, and at the end, I would have the equivalent of a four year degree.
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"I had the same number of machine design, materials and physics courses as my friends with BA in ME."
Did you take heat transfer, thermodynamics, statics, vibration, fluids...etc in MET?
"I think it would more geared towards some structural courses as i think its lacking at both level (ME and MET.)"
What structural are you looking for? If you are talking about beam theory, failure theory, determinate statics...etc in ME (well here in the states) it is under statics and mechanical engineering design (Shigley).
Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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Not covered:
Heat transfers,Thermo, vibration,fluids
Fea is also not covered
Covered subjects:
Beam theory(Mohr circle, combined load etc)
Machine design(calculating all elements of machine designs bearings shaft Failure theory etc)
Robotics and automations
Tolerancing(geo and stacking)
Heat treatment etc.
I should have specified that i was looking for courses that would be helpul to my experience hence why i excluded thermo and vibration courses.
The machines that i designs thermo transfer and vibrations are not critical, but structural courses would be helpful.
Now with materials courses,machine design you can deduce what is structually sound but i would i have liked to go even further.
I think what Trchambe suggested is interesting as i could pick only course that are relevant to my experience.
I would like to better myself and a clear list of which course would give me that extra nudge.
Its not really to climb up the ladder as we are only two in the design firm where i work:)
But being only two us i cannot really on no one else so you have to be very well rounded.
Thnaks agains for any help:)
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Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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I am not saying null about the content of the courses. But, I have a close friend who did both the MET and B.Eng. He always ranted about how he learned nothing in the MET course compared to the B.Eng.
The math skills of an MET are drastically deficient for any kind of advanced analysis.
I know some of you will hate me for saying this, but it's true.
{Also, I know some keen MET's do teach themselves more then regular...but that is besides the case}
Fe
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Whether any particular person is working above, or below, his abilities is altogether a different and irrelevant question.
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As I mentioned above, I am looking into graduate electrical engineering courses. The math is definitely more difficult in engineering than engineering technology, but it is not impossible. Again though, I really do think the engineering technology programs vary considerably between schools.
IRstuff,
Most of my EET classmates have gone on to be engineers without any problem. I'm curious, would you say that mechanical engineering requires more advanced math in day to day work? You seem to have some experience in both fields, so may be better qualified to answer.
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Learn these 2 fundamental courses:
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Then we can talk about the higher levels of math.
Without understanding linear algebra and differential equations, it would be impossible to understand the details of fundamental concepts in engineering.
Of course, the "plug and play" types always think they know everything...
Fe
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This is hard to believe. I am fimilar with the regulations in Canada. To become a P.Eng. from a EET degree would require extensive testing. 99% of tech graduates would not pass.
This is done on purpose.
Fe
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In the states, as I'm sure you're aware from previous threads, professional licensure is awarded per state. I'm not aware of any states that allow an engineering technology graduate to immediately take the test. In many states however, you can be admitted to the test based upon work experience.
I should also specify that when I said engineer, I didn't mean professional engineer. Again, in the US, engineer doesn't necessarily imply professional engineer. That may be different in Canada.
It is true however that most of my classmates are now (unlicensed) engineers, immediately upon graduation. Further, one of my classmates and myself have taken and passed the FE with plans to take the PE once experience requirements have been met, and two EETs I'm aware of from years ago have professional licensure.
And once again, I don't mean to say all EETs are qualified. In my experience it really does depend on what school you go to.
But, the dreaded "Engineer vs. PE" and "Engineer vs. Engineering Tech" debates aside... I'd say don't let your previous degree determine future classes. Try to take whatever you feel you are capable of taking.
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I am not sure if situation is the same in the US or not.
"I'd say don't let your previous degree determine future classes"
For your situation, this is good to go by.
As for courses, it is very hard to judge what you may want to take not knowing what knowledge you already have.
Fe
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I don't think that proves anything specifically. I'm well familiar with completely non-degreed persons that managed to get promoted to the "exalted" "engineer" job title, but so what? Just how transferrable is that title? The answer is not one tiny bit; I knew a guy who was simply a brilliant EE, but we couldn't get him hired as a engineer, even with some big guns pushing his hiring against some HR stalwarts.
Titles can be given out at the drop of a hat; "sanitation engineer" is a title that raises the hackles of many engineers concerned about devaluation of their professional prestige. There are tons of engineering jobs that get filled and the people who fill them never do much in the way of straining their dim memories for line integrals, or Fourier transforms; that's just the vagaries of life.
The bottom line is that if anyone wants to maximize his ability to get hired as an engineer, he needs to get a BS in engineering, period, end of story. Anything less is a crapshoot; sometimes you get a winner, and other times you get craps. Anyone trying to argue otherwise is spitting into the wind and and putting their head in the sand.
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No problem. I neglected to mention my location in the first place. I believe I've worked my way around not knowing what I do not know by browsing the available lecture notes and homework assignments, just to see if I believed it was within my capability. RBX should probably do this as well.
IRstuff,
"The bottom line is that if anyone wants to maximize his ability to get hired as an engineer, he needs to get a BS in engineering, period, end of story. Anything less is a crapshoot; sometimes you get a winner, and other times you get craps."
I certainly agree with this. If you're looking for a guaranteed way into the field of work, an engineering degree is the way to go. But, it's not the only way, and for a good many engineering positions (and I mean what is traditionally considered engineering... not those positions in the janitorial realm) it is more than adequate.
I'd go on to say that, if you want to be an engineer, I recommend going into an engineering field of study. There are those like me however who flipped a coin to choose a degree, ended up liking it quite a bit, and fell into an engineering position after school. For these people who wish to further their education, it makes little sense to go back and get a second BS for a position that he's already proven to future employers he is capable if handling. To take graduate level, or at least advanced BS level courses would be a better route, if you are capable of doing well in them.
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I agree 100%. I graduated from a Canadian MET program and then went into university (U Toronto). The courses were like night and day in terms of level of difficulty.
However, I want to emphasize that there is quite a bit of value in an MET diploma. Having that three year diploma has opened doors to me that many (but not all) of my fellow classmates in university did not have access to. I was able to fight off excessive student loan debt through university by doing CAD design & drafting work in the summers and occasionally while in school. Not to mention the practical experience that I was gaining in parallel to my theoretically oriented classes.
The MET programs in Canada are highly practice oriented. In a way, they teach you how to "get the job done" using tried and true methods. Conversely, university programs try to teach students how to think from first principles.
A little over six years ago I was a confused drafter in my early 20's who wasn't quite happy with what I was doing and was hungry for more. I actually stated my case right here on Eng-Tips and received brilliant and life changing advice from some of the posters above.
The example that had the most impact on me at the time was by another Canadian engineer, RDK (still around, Rick? forgive me if I fudge up some details). He had a friend doing a Civil Eng Technology course while he himself was doing Civil Engineering at university. He and his friend were both taking "Strength of Materials" courses with the same name.
The strength of materials exams taken by RDK's friend dealt with rather straightforward problems applying beam calculations from the back-of-the-book.
RDK's exams, on the other hand, involved a question along the lines of "Given the properties of human bone tissue given in table XYZ, and the approximate shape of a tibia bone given in figure ABC, determine the maximum height a 65 kg person could jump from before breaking their tibia." Not very practical, but exactly the sort of thinking that has to be done by someone who is developing something that is new and groundbreaking (no pun intended).
Six years (and a bachelors degree) later, I still find that example to be highly relevant and use it from time to time when speaking to people in colleges asking the same questions I had asked back then.
Bear in mind, this is not necessarily a one way street. A problem facing many universities today is the lack of true practical skills being offered to students. A great deal of students are so inundated with calculus and Diff.Eq's that they can't tell the difference between a drill press and a lathe. I am working with both of my almae matres to set up a special summer program for first year university students (who aren't all that employable anyways) to take some machine shop and drafting classes at the local community college.
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You are right on the money.
Seems like it is a real asset to have both MET and B.Eng. => best of both worlds.
Fe
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Regarding to the P.Eng., the only unfortunate thing is that they only give 1 year credit for an M.Sc. and I thought 1 for a PhD as well. But it now seems only 1 year for grad school in general. Kinda sux for guys like me.
Good luck for your P.Eng. exam (if you have not taken it already). I hear it's easier if you take it right after taking the Law class in fourth year. I opted out of this option.
Fe
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"I graduated from a Canadian MET program and then went into university (U Toronto)."
Or am I misreading this?
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No it's not. Only community colleges offer this.
From what I understand, you can then go on to enroll into a B.Eng. (or B.A.Sc.) at university as justkeepgiviner did.
Fe
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There is a shift going on right now in Canadian community colleges where they are starting to offer degree granting programs in conjunction with affiliated universities, however these are a long way away from being accredited by the CEAB. Still, it shows that the lines between Canadian colleges and universities are starting to blur somewhat.
I wrote the Professional Practice Exams (P.Eng exam) in April and passed. I would definitely recommend to any new Canadian engineering grads reading this to take the exam early and just get it out of the way.
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I have a ABET accredited BSEET and I was accepted and graduated 2 years ago with my MSEE without taking any extra classes.
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Maybe someone could post up the typical MET courses in the US or canada.
My MET exams where never of the "back of the book" you had start at the begining of the design(problem)and work your way up from there.
When i design i start from scratch and have to calculate everything from the ground up.
My MET gives me ALL the necessary tools to go thru the entire machine.
I have never had trouble keeping up with fellow engineers when we talked "design and forces and such".
But if i face some complex designs that take into vibrations into account then i would have to say that MET start to limit my design. And a BS in ME would be helpful if i get to that level of hi-tech machinery.
I dont a BS in ME i just some course to upgrade my knowledge database.
I dont want this thread to be MET vs ME that was not my intention when i started it.
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Semester 1:
Materials I
Computational Analysis Tools in MET
Semester 2:
Production Design and Specifications
Applied Statics
Manufacturing Processes I
Semester 3:
Applied Strength of Materials
Dynamics
Manufacturing Processes II
Semester 4:
Machine Elements I
Heat/Power
Fluid Power
Semester 5:
Applied Thermodynamics
Semester 6:
Applied Fluid Mechanics
Materials II
Controls and Instrumentation for Automation
During the last two semesters, you must choose 4 more MET electives of your choice
These are only the MET courses. Throughout these semesters are also classical physics, chemistry, programming, two semesters of calulus, speech, economics, and a few more random courses.
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Currently I work in my chosen field so I don't complain and the schooling suits the job. Pretty independent in my workday, too.
If I was going to suggest anything to you, I'd first say look at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay. They offer the most credit for your existing schooling than any other university I can think of.
Secondly, it may be possible to move from a practicing technologist certification to a P.Eng. license without going to school. There is a mechanism for doing this in Alberta and Ontario so maybe you can in Quebec, too.
If, thirdly, your concern is purely job mobility, then you can accomplish that mostly on references and a detailed job description provided by your boss. Get it written down today and find an excuse to get him to "approve" or acknowledge it in some official way. Gives you a piece of paper you can take to a subsequent employer that attests to what you can do. Joining the technologists association of the province will probably demand that kind of info - a nice way to get your credentials in writing. Take that to a job interview and if they have an open mind they may consider you equal to the other P.Eng. candidates.
Fourth thought. You don't sound like the type who must be hired by a big stratified mega-corporation in order to be gainfully employed. Some people are like that, others are much more independent and "autodidactic".
Good luck.
Steven Fahey, CET
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I was told by a professor at where I attended undergrad that MET students have a higher passing rate at the FE than ME students. It was just simply word of mouth, however i believe it. MET coursework has more FE style problems.
One thing to look out for is to make sure the MET degree is ABET accredited. The curriculum RBX posted looks like a half ass program.
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Where did i post a curriculum!!??
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Intro Comp I
Elem Spanish I
Elem Spanish II
U.S. since 1876
College Algebra
Intro MET
Manfng Processes
Intro Comp II
Trigonometry
Engg Graphics I
Metal CutngOpr I
Metal Joining
Intro Program C
U.S. to 1876
Calculus I
Metal CutngOprII
Tech Writing
Wrld Cvlzn:Medvl
Calculus II
Mechanics
Gen Chemistry I
Descr Geometry
Numerical CntrlI
Intro Psychology
Intro Economics
Engg Graphics II
Statics
Instruments LabI
Electrmag&Relatv
HeatSndLghtQntum
Intro IntnlIssue
Ac&Dc Circ Analy
Engg Economy
Dynamics
Survey Phil Thgt
ElecMchnTrnfmCtl
Western Lit I
Fluid Mechanics
Instruments LabII
Engg Materials
Strength of Mtls
Metrology
Business Comm
Thermodynamics I
Machine Design I
Power LaboratoryI
Tool Design I
Robot Applicatns
Power LaboratoryII
Marketing Prin
ThermodynamicsII
Mgmt&OrgnBehavor
Kinemtcs of Mchn
Engg Law II
Public Speaking
Manuf Operations
Machine Desgn II
207 GPA Hours
It sounds like MET is very different in what it involves between Canada and the US. My course lists is pretty similar to what you'd find as part of a normal ME degree program. Notable exceptions are we didn't have to take a course in Differential Equations, Heat Transfer or Vibration but they were options. I went with 3 Tool/Machine Design classes instead since that was where my interests were at.
Of the people I graduated with in the MET department and kept in contact with 1 went on to get his PE since he worked with a Mechanical/Architecture firm and needed to stamp bid drawings. Everyone else is employed as Mechanical Engineers in industry and aren't required, nor encouraged to seek their PE. I design Heavy Equipment, another friend does vision systems for Automated Manufacturing lines, and another works at Lockheed Martin. None of us has ever been referred to as a "Technologist" to my knowledge and I've worked with a Georgia Tech ME grad every day for 12 years.
There has always been some rivalry between ME/METs, especially since Georgia Tech and Southern Tech are in close proximity with graduates in the same job pool. Overall though the line is pretty blurry around here.
Feel free to take shots at my list or ask questions about it :) I promise not to take it personally, hehe.
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- I've always been titled 'engineer' and worked alongside BSME's and MSME's doing the same work that they do. I'm often checking their work or mentoring them.
- I applied for an MSME program at a 'good' program in a major school and was provisionally accepted, 6 years after BSMET. I was told to take 3 additional math classes that represent the difference between my ABET MET program and the ABET ME program. At 8 years out of school, I decided that the benefit/cost was not high and that the MSME program time commitment was more likely to end with me in divorce court rather than the Chief Engineer position, so I decided to forget it.
- I took the FE Exam and passed it, several years out of school, without taking a study course. Just studying at home for a few months in between the screams of a crying baby. I could take the PE, but at this point I'm trying to see what benefit it has.
- Customers have paid to have me come all over the world to advise them on engineering problems, traveling first class, staying in nice hotels on their expense and they were happy to have me. I've been greeted by the upper management up to VP level at several large multinational engineering companies, taken out to dinners, and spent time with them over weekends when they could have been doing something else. People like you if you bring results, regardless of what academic background you came from. Similarly, if you are Doctor of ME andf tenured professor and can't bring results for whatever reason, they'll hate you and think you don't know anything. :)
- My salary is above average for my level.
- I do Code work often for things related to public safety on a large scale. Since I am not a PE yet, I don't take legal responsibility but I am the one doing the physics.
- I feel like I am seeing more jobs posting that call for technical degrees, or specifically say science or engineering technology as an option, versus 5 or 10 years ago. It seems a lot of good people that would have previously signed up for BSME or similar are going into other fields with better long term options in the USA, like biotech. My employer gets a lot of resumes from BS/MSME's who have been dumping engineering off on vendors for so long that they forget how to calculate anything themselves, so they also look at Physics, Math, and Technology majors who have a demonstrated recent ability to design and calculate things.
- Once in industry, you learn a lot on the job that isn't taught in any program. Sometimes you need to do DiffEQ's and things like that, but what really sets you apart as an engineer is your ability to tell facts from assumptions, synthesize info, develop a course of action, and communicate your desires in a way that makes things happen. Anyone can look into a book after graduation and figure out how to do Eigenvalues, for example. In my experience with large companies, it's recognized that if you need additional technical knowledge you'll either find it alone or ask for training. The important thing is understanding technical needs, how to get to results, where to find info, and how to navigate all the internal and external customer and vendor processes to get results. In my last 2 job interviews, I got offers both times and my type of degree was never a topic of discussion.
In summary, the best way to improve yourself is not more class work. Take jobs in various industries, do overseas jobs and learn how to work with different cultures and design philosophies, and never pass up an opportunity to learn some new engineering methods or skills.
I wish I had known all this when I was earning my BSMET. Coming out of HS, I did not have the money for tuition and room and board to attend a far away school with an ME program. I started part time in an extension of a large school that had an AS MET and worked until I had money to move, attend full-time and get a BSMET at the main campus. During this time, the economy was in the dumps post-IT bubble burst and 9/11. I listened to the talk of academics at the school about 'Technologists' and wondered if I'd ever be recognized for my ability to be an engineer. Once out of academia, I realized that this is basically politics and that in practice it does not matter which degree you have. If I could go back, and I had the money to start in the traditional engineering program I might still choose MET because it leaves out coursework that is rarely practiced and adds more of the practical things that differentiates engineers from scientists such as manufacturing processes, statistics, etc.
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Once in a while, something comes up where you need a triple integral or complicated differential to solve, or some fracture mechanics or metallurgical gem of insight is possessed by the engineer and not by the technologist. At my age, I'd have to crack a textbook and spend a day or two boning up on the theory before entering into an intelligent attempt at solving such things; meanwhile, the CET who brought the issue to my attention has probably already applied some logic, made some assumptions, and boiled it down to some simple graph or algebraic expression that comes close enough to anything that I end up with. At that point, the engineer has verified what the technologist has done, but the technologist has still done it well enough.
Myself, for example, I'd rather have a CET review a WPS / PQR or look at a butt-weld x-ray before assigning an engineer - like me - who has never picked up a welding rod in his or her life. There are things that technologists learn - and know - that engineers simply don't learn or know. That is why I favour a system in which the governing associations work towards clearer definitions of their respective scopes of practice.
A wise man once put it to me this way:
(1) Engineers develop technology.
(2) Technologists apply the technology developed by engineers.
(3) Technicians implement the technology developed by engineers and applied by technologists.
Why there is such a big controversy over the above is because there isn't a big job market - at least not here - purely in the development of technology, so engineers and technologists compete for the only work that is left over: applying currently existing (but, more commonly, antiquated) technology towards solving problems.
Engineers need to get back to roles in which they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, rather than just reading an ASME Code or a piece of Legislation that states what their Client needs to do. As far as I am concerned, if that is what engineering has deteriorated to - and, sadly, in my mind, it is - then even a high school graduate with some algebra and reading skills can do the job.
Regards,
SNORGY.
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A technician can fix your TV, but he can barely tell you how it works.
An engineer knows exactly how your TV works, but he can't fix one that's broken.
A technologist can do both, though with a bit of fussing around.
I know now that it's not that simple, but in hindsight I'm glad he told me that.
Snorgy: Since you're in Alberta, have you looked at the new ASET classifications yet?
Steven Fahey, CET
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I haven't really looked into the new ASET classifications or given the relevant issues the attention that they deserve. I have been on a paid LOA for the past 3 months, playing with my dogs (secondary career).
However, I know that my opinions aren't necessarily those of other P.Eng.'s in our Association, but I stand behind them. Engineers typically graduate from university armed with all of the knowledge and theory that they need to contribute towards changing the world and advancing technology, only to find themselves in enormously watered-down digressions from that ideal as a career, and within ten years, their "expertise" is comparable to that achieved by an Honours Grade 12 matriculation student. Further, their mandate is changed by society (specifically by MBA's) from "make things for us" to "make moiney for us".
It's truly a sad state of affairs.
Regards,
SNORGY.
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The depression reaches a new low...
Regards,
SNORGY.
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Just to carry on a bit more about technologist certifications in Alberta - there's been a recent push at the political level to amalgamate the organizations of the professional engineers (APEGGA) with the Techs (ASET). The compromise struck (I think) was that the two bodies would work together to provide "bridges" between the two solitudes. Apart from some foot-dragging on the part of the PE's (who see this as a step down) and giddy enthusiasm on the part of the Techs (seeing it as a step up) the process may actually be under way.
Steven Fahey, CET
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Regards,
SNORGY.