BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
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Would it possible in your opinion to reduce or stop the crude oil flow using LN to freeze it?
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BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
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I could see hydrates reducing the flow if they could be made to form, but stopping the flow would be quite challenging.
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The latest information says that the gas component of the flow has increased significantly. This would hinder any attempt to use LN2. The additional gas flow would in the opinion of some would enhance the chance of the "junk shot" working.
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According to some reports the well failed a very critical pressure test just prior to the "kick" and boom. According to my contacts with a couple of drillers that work off shore you don't have much choice when a well fails the "negative pressure test". I haven't had chance to get this test defined, but as I understand it the there are three points on the well head where the pressure should balance and if not you have a leak somewhere in the cement job. This well failed 2 test, one just prior to the blowout and explosion.
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Please post a link to the discussion on MMS. Thanks!
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The first is on Flicker, where there are few knowledgeable people. There are a comments on every picture.
The comments on Fcebook and Twitter have been rearranged and are a little more difficult to navigate.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uscgd8/4552485336/
http://www.mms.gov/DeepwaterHorizon.htm
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BP is going to insert a tube (8" from another source) into to the open end pipe (API 21") to "siphon" some of the oil to the surface. They hope to be able to install something like a packer if they have any success.
They are to test the "top hat" today.
Not sure about this one as a reporter interrupted. They have either take radiographs at the BOP or going to. This is check the position of the valves.
They have determined (measured) that the pressures are lower than originally assumed.
They are looking at cutting the riser and putting a well control valve above the BOP.
They are also looking at replacing the BOP itself.
They still have the "junk shot" in the works.
At times I wondered who he speaking for the USCG or BP.
CNN also found a report from LNL where the Russians used nuclear explosions to kill four out five wild welds.
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RE: BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
RE: BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
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RE: BP disaster and liquid nitrogen
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The dispersant's are doing a good job spreading the oil around. I have yet to hear that if X bbls of oil come out of the pipe there has to X bbls somewhere.
This fiasco has turned into a Aw XXXX big time.
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One of the big concerns is the depletion of the O2 in wider areas of the Gulf. There is already a large dead zone South and West of the mouth of the Mississippi River.
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There some preexisting off shore dead zones around the mouth of the Mississippi River. These have been there for a number of years and there is still debate as to cause, the leading candidate is the fertilizer runoff from the Midwest. Most of the shrimpers and fisherman can give the exact location of the existing as there is nothing there to catch. This section of the gulf doesn't need any further degradation.
They are worried about the loop current carrying some of the oil through the Florida Straits and into the Gulf Stream and up the East Coast. You would see some jumping jacks if a few tar balls hit South Beach in Miami.
What gets me is why do we hear of just one research vessel studying this problem. It Looks like a golden opportunity to measure some of the effects instead of postulation by computer simulation.
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The price of shrimp is already depressed due to imports from the Far East. Fresh shrimp is mainly for the higher end restaurants. A little know fact to most is that a shrimp will try to leave any water that it considers toxic to it. The squid will do the same only faster. Both of these creatures are major items in food chain.
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At this moment the Google news page doesn't have one line about the spill or response. Talking about falling off the radar.
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Actually, they're not that pristine. They had tarballs before, from tankers discharging goo. So far, no one has proven that the new tarballs are BP tarballs.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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Some does come from errant ships as of late history, but I don't think its really that much. The consistancy of the weathered tar balls is much different from new oil. Tar balls are basically only the heavies, that's why they're called tar balls, not oil balls. Even new weathered crude "tar" balls, still show some shinyness to them and smell different. Tar balls are duller in appearence than new asphalt. Its pretty easy for an old Texas surf fisherman like me to tell them apart. New oil comes off with soapy water. True tar balls need a kerosene, or BBQ lighter fluid wipe to remove them. You usually find you stepped in a few after you get home and take off your socks and walk around on the carpet.
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I'm in Pt Arthur and haven't heard of any around here.
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