Looks like the Newspapers see the emperor has no clothes
Looks like the Newspapers see the emperor has no clothes
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Interesting article here.
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The article cites Denmark's "frenzied construction" of wind generation, yet, in the same report cited in the article, the actual wind generation is less 30% of the total production. Meanwhile, the total production more than doubled.
Seems pretty clear that the author has an agenda and is not just presenting facts, although tha't clearly the impression that the author is trying to make.
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"Even an aging natural gas well producing 60,000 cubic feet per day generates more than 20 times the watts per square meter of a wind turbine."
Something wrong with those units. How do you divide 60,000 CFD by w/m2 and get > 20.
That's provided taht the w/m2 ratio was anywhere near constant for wind turbines, which it isn't. For the top 10 mfgr's models, it varies from 6000 to 13,600 w/m2
Need more holes punched in that page?
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I really wish every journalist would need an engineering or other science degree if he wants to write about engineering related matters.
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A seriously neutral analysis approach would have cited the increase in production capacity, and clearly delineated the reasons for carbon neutrality, from whatever source.
In fact, the mere fact that both sides, in a legal action, can have their own, qualified, scientific experts shows that evne experts can be bought or swayed to a particular side, regardless of any technical merit.
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WP's implication that wind energy doesn't reduce CO2 emissions is based on weird logic: When the wind isn't blowing, you have to use your coal plants so you produce CO2, therefore we claim that wind power creates CO2. That's just silly logic.
The paragraphs on electrics cars state facts which aren't mentioned in those cute advertisements for the Leaf, Prius and others. There is nothing "green" about the huge Lithium mining in Chile or rare-earth-metal mining in China.
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And typically if the wind dosen't blow, you don't make it up with coal. Coal plants can't respond fast enough. You use gas turbans and thus the increased cost of wind energy even when the wind isen't blowing.
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And as a matter of fact, there isen't large power lines to places where people don't live. Which is the primary reason T. Boon's wind farm failed. He simply did not want to invest in transmission capacity.
And truthfuly why would anyone want to invest in a transmission line they can't make money from.
Actually that's the achilies heal to power deregulation. There is no profit for the power line owners.
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New power lines are a generally well recognized necessity in bringing wind and solar from generation points to demand centers.
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