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Updating Revision Tables

Updating Revision Tables

Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
Hello all,
Is there a way to update a rev table on the drawing without having to delete it and insert a new one?  Some of our rev tables have 20+ revisions and if we insert a new one we have to mnaually retype all the descriptions for each rev.  I would like to be able to change the rev table format (maybe font size, bold, etc) and then point to it and update to the new one while retaining all the info.

Thanks,
BB

RE: Updating Revision Tables

I suspect you could write a macro to make these changes to the formatting of the table, I don't know an easy way to do it.  The rev table template is only called when the table is first inserted into the drawing, updating the template won't update the existing table, and unlike sheet formats there is no format file for tables that you can update and reapply.
 

RE: Updating Revision Tables

Hi, BodyBagger:

Can you remove some of accient revisions to make room for your new revision?

Best regards,

Alex

RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
rgrayclamps,

All revs must remain, unfortunately.

BB

RE: Updating Revision Tables

Hi, BodyBagger:

It does not make any sense.  What happpens if you have 200 revisions to a print?

ASME does not mention that all revs must remain, or does it?

Best regards,

Alex

RE: Updating Revision Tables

BodyBagger,
Alex is right. You can start over, that's why you keep a history of the ECO's against that p/n, plus they're more detailed.

Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2009 SP 4.1
Dell 490 XP Pro SP 2
Xeon CPU 3.00 GHz 3.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro FX 3450 512 MB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

RE: Updating Revision Tables

Forgive me, I misread.  You *may* be able to copy the information out of the table and into your new table.

ASME says that revisions can be removed.

Matt Lorono
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

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RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
Hello all,

Keeping all the revs is a company policy only, one of which I have tried to change but to no avail.

RE: Updating Revision Tables

But do they have to be visible on the drawing?
If you've done your rev table correctly, you can hide the early rows without deleting them, thus keeping the history within the file, but only showing what there is room for.

RE: Updating Revision Tables

Hi, BodyBagger:

I can understand "Keeping all the revs is a company policy".  But that does not mean you need to show all revision records on its current drawing document.  Showing 3 to 6 revisions in the current drawing document should suffice.

MikeMcl:

Do you hide the early rows without deleting them?  Is this a new feature in SW2010?  I do not see it in SW2008.

Best regards,

Alex

 

RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
All,
We seem to have gotten side-tracked here, please understand that asking me to change the way we do things is NOT an option as I do not make the rules here.  I am simply looking for any available ways to get the rev table content settings to update to new table setttings.

All revs have to show
All revs have to be saved

Thanks
BB

RE: Updating Revision Tables

BB,

We aren't actually sidetracked.  The solutions offered so far are legitimate, though I understand why you may not be able to implement them.  

In my experience, with your tight constraints and limited functionality (no PDM), there is no easy solution for you without some costly development of custom add-ins or other forms of custom script.  Even if you had an automation tool like BatchProcessor (www.angelsix.com), you'll still be left filling in all your data manually when you replace the rev block.

Matt Lorono
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

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RE: Updating Revision Tables

You might try spliting or dividing the table in to two and just keeping the latest Revs on the actual sheet you can put a note such as old revs shown on last sheet or something similar.

Michael

RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
fcsuper,

We are using PDMWorks Enterprise but have more complaints about it than good things to say.  Even our VAR said it is a product that should be shelved until it is properly developed.  But, we are stuck with using it until something better comes along.  We do use PDM for revision control.  What are your thoughts....?

Thanks,
BB

RE: Updating Revision Tables

Well, nothing more than what has already been said.  The PDM itself maintains the revision history in a way that is visible for all time.  It can also be used to manage your rev block (once you have one established).

Matt Lorono
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

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RE: Updating Revision Tables

I must be misunderstanding the question but if you just want to add a revision to an existing table all you have to do is RMB on the table and select Revisions - Add Revision. This will add a line to the table with the next rev level and you maintain the previous revisions without having to retype the information.  

Carl
Dell M70
SW 2010 SP2.0

RE: Updating Revision Tables

I'm a little confused too.

Why do you have to retype the Descriptions?
What type of Rev Table are you using?
Are you just running out of room?

RE: Updating Revision Tables

My understanding is that the OP is asking for a way to REPLACE the current table with a brand new table, but maintain all the information in the original table.

Matt Lorono
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

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RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
Hello all,

We have found some drawings where the text and columns in the revision table do not meet the standards of our current revision tabe.  To keep it simple let's just say that someone here created a revision table in 2009 with size 10 text and we updated this revision table to use size 8 text.  When I come across drawings created with the size 10 text I would like to be able to update the table to the new revision table file that should convert the text to size 8 without deleting the table and inserting a new one.

Hope this helps,
BB

RE: Updating Revision Tables

I'm a bit confused.
You have a rev table with revisions/descriptions/etc.
What exactly is needing updated? If you need to only change the text size, row height, etc...left-click on the table, then right-click on the gray border, go to formatting.

Chris
SolidWorks 09 SP4.1
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Updating Revision Tables

If you're not seeing the font formatting options, click on the leftmost icon ... Black A on yellow background.

RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
Thanks to all,

The issue has been resolved.

RE: Updating Revision Tables

For future reference, what was the solution?

RE: Updating Revision Tables

(OP)
I have decided not to fix the problem because I must keep moving forward.  I have informed the higher authorities here that the problem exists and have washed my hands of it.

Sorry, not a global solution but a single one.

RE: Updating Revision Tables

I still don't understand what the real problem is or was, but feel compelled to point out that Rev Tables are not limited to single alpha notations. After the singles are used up, the doubles begin. (AA,AB,AC,etc).

And as Chris stated, the font format can be adjusted, so there is no need to overwrite or reload the Rev Table.

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