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# PE Waive for PHD11

## PE Waive for PHD

(OP)
Hi,
I have 4 years of Experience as of now and passed EIT in California.
I did my PHD from Texas. How can i waive my PE in Texas.

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

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You cannot waive a PE examination based on education.  Similarly a PE with many years of experience cannot waive a PhD admission exam.

Both exams have thier place since having a PE no more makes an engineer ready for the pursuit of advanced degree than does a PhD make up for years of practical experience.

I speak from experience on boths sides and have a SE to boot.

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Well said

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

If your doing "Civil/Environmental" work in Texas - odds are you'll work under an industry exemption in which case a PE is irrelevant. Particularly at the PhD level and in this economy - there is no public sector work. Industry doesn't care about the P.E.

Go work for a big company, stay away from consulting - and don't waste your time.

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

Yea, I agree mostly with Kenat and dave.
I was just saying 6 years because you need a 2 year masters first then 3-4 yeas for the PhD. So 5 to 6 years right?
That's what we do in Canada and US.

Fe

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

It really should be noted that you cannot get a PhD without a masters so you must add that time in.  A PhD program requires at a minimum (what I've seen) 72 hours.  Naturally that is dependent on many factors.  But the bulk of those 72 hours come from the 30 or so you did with your master's degree.  So the two are very much connected.

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### RE: PE Waive for PHD

As I recall, a pHd is 90 credit hours past a BS, including credits for the thesis. If you only want a MS, that is typically 30 credit hours past a BS.

Minimum full time credit hours is 12 hrs/semester, max is rarely over 20 credit hours per semester ( 2 semesters per annum excluding summer)

The 90 hrs in 3 yrs can be accomplished assuming one is not using a teaching apprenticeship  to pay for tuition, as a teaching load of 2 classes per semester makes it difficult to carry 15 credit hrs .

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

Guess it depends where you are. Seems like some are implying a thesis can be written in 4 months. LOL.
Like I said, where I am it is more, I am in the process of mine, and can assure you 4 months is just the flesh.

Fe

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

PhD is 90 credits (48 course, 42 research)
MS is 30 credits (21 course, 9 research)

It completely depends on where you do your MS if your credits can transfer.  If I went for the PhD it would have taken me an additional 2.5 years on top of the 1.5 for the MS.  6 years for PhD is not unheard of but it's not typical from my experience.

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

You can only transfer credits for a PhD if your masters work did not lend you a masters...ie. where I come from you can enter a masters program and before finishing it you can apply to transfer to the PhD program (without graduating the masters). You cannot by any means use you masters work as credit to a PhD in any other way. This would be seen as academic misconduct and CHEATING.
Would be nice if I could not have to take any courses in PhD or teach and tutor eh...

Fe

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

FeX32

You'll find that the the situation varies quite a lot from field to field and country to country.  What you state is true in some cases, but by no means true in all.

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

Only 30 credits for a Masters degree?  Where was that?  I needed 45 credits at Drexel.

### RE: PE Waive for PHD

It's typically 30 credits for semester programs and 45 credits for quarter programs.

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### RE: PE Waive for PHD

Yes, but remember that in a quarter program you still cover the material that is in the text book.  You just have less time to cover it all.

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