Rig Explosion and Fire
Rig Explosion and Fire
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This is not supposed to happen.
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According to news reports all efforts so far to operate the BOP have failed.
Look at the slide show it shows the robot at BOP control panel. I wonder if the hydraulics were still connected. The reports say the platform is intact laying about 1300 feet from the well head.
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Will Chevron Corp.
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http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/311/311AA.pdf
Anecdotal:
The approach now being discussed about using a bell shaped device. Sombrero. direct the oil to some collection device is 79's technology which this paper gives credit to Brown and Root when actually the idea came through Red Adair and was proposed by a local gentleman I knew quite well. Tex Edwards owned a steel erection and crane rental service and was quite the tinker and inventor. He had a tower crane long before they hit the scene in Europe, He had two working wheeled hydraulic cranes very early on. He was notorious for adding extremely long jibs to existing lattice boom friction cranes.
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Earlier today there had been no comment from the government but the article was updated with a response.
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I've talked to my wife' daughter's in-laws, a total of five who are in the drilling business both as rig owners and one driller on an offshore rig. To a person they can't understand why this blowout got s far as it did as they said the well would have been giving all types of signs that something was wrong at the bottom. Their only explanation was that supposedly there was a cementing crew on the floor operating the rig at the time of the incident.
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Like you said,Unclesyd, there are all sorts of warning signs of BOP failure, and I know for a fact that the Deepwater Horizon had a minimum of 4 failsafes to stop flow from escaping the wellhead. It seems odd to me that none of them did. Honestly, the whole thing doesn't make sense to me. Failsafes that should have worked, didnt. That's pretty much the sum of it.
Will Chevron Corp.
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To essentually claim in their environmental impact assessments that the risk of deepwater drilling was the same as any other drilling project was utterly irresponsible, possibly criminal. Unfortunately, my congressional representatives in Louisianna (Charles Boustany, etal) have repeatedly protected oil company profits in the belief that cheap energy and jobs were more important than a responsibility to employee and public safety, and the environment. I don't really blame politicians because it is their nature to do what gets them elected, and we can just as surely predict that they will act shocked and angry in the aftermath.
BP announced multi-billion 1st quarter profits well above expectations on the same day as the rig accident. I think that there is a a pretty good chance this company will go the way of Union Carbide before all the congressional hearings, clean-up costs, safety and environmental fines, civil and (hopefully) criminal suits are even concluded. Sell any BP stock you own, but don't cry for BP! The workers and assets will continue on under new and hopefully more responsible management.
best wishes,
sshep
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Haha, You and me both. Im originally from Beaumont, TX, but have lived in Baton Rouge ever since college, currently working in the Norco area.
Will Chevron Corp.
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Does anyone know what insurance company holds the liability with BP?
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If the BOP could be operated, would it stem the flow, or fail and become part of the debris?
Any estimates of the amount of reserves and the time for the well to deplete and stop on ts own?
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
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According to reports BP is self insured and I haven't heard or seen anything about any secondary insurance.
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The BOP is still in place and their is some contention as to actually which panel the ROV is trying to operate.
A BOP similar to the one a the well site
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Sketch of the riser as it now stands,
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Here is the MMS report on the DWH incident there is some good discussion as well as some not so good.
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Anecdotal:
Just think that I paid a $150.00 fine for a small sheen from diesel fuel by my boat while fueling because the fuel man laid his delivery nozzle on the rail a few drops went overboard. This was kick in the butt until about 5 years before this the state used to spray diesel along the shoreline two or three times a year to kill the Dog Flies.
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I jsut listened to a news broadcast where a Senator from Alabama stated under the current legislation BP was only responsible for the cleanup and not the damages, I hope he miss stated even though he said it twice.
That fact might be the reason that BP was requiring anyone who signed up for cleanup work had to sign aa contract stating that they wouldn't file future claims.
That could also explain the reason that have received 2 calls from legal firms concerning our fishing boat.
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Citation: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?hp
I am sure that there are many others besides myself who would appreciate any comments that our experts in this field are free to make.
Thanks
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
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I know you have been in industry long enough to realize that when a problem starts you hear from the experts, but as the situation deteriorates they quickly disappear into the wood work only to reappear if there is progress in the resolution of the problem.
When all the plans depends on a plan by one entity and it turns out they have no real plan, the old empty bag syndrome comes into play.
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Did the BOP almost work and close most of the way? Is the junk shot to try to plug an almost closed BOP or are they going to try and block the casing where it is folded over?
BP's explanation had no hint of what the original issue was with the BOP.
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
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One operation that evidently going on is the "siphon" that is supposedly working with some flow of oil to the surface;
which can be increased. Some reports say 4" riser and some say 6" riser. It would be nice if it was the 6" as it would take the 80%-90% of the leak. If you could get night picture it would be nice to see a flare on the recovery ship.
I too would like to see some of the transparency promised by our government. It looks like the government is just parroting BP.
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Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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At this moment the Google news page doesn't have one line about the spill or response. Talking about falling off the radar.
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Time to change the name from British Petroleum to British Saviors. Appropriate in more ways than one. Grin
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
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I caught one report where it was stated that they opened the choke to get more pressure on the siphon.
If you get a look at the video of the leak #2 on top of the BOP if you look close you can see two leaks, one is from a smaller pipe than the riser and looks more like an emulsion while the big one is real stuff.
Just watch a CG briefing where they are going to try a "top kill" this weekend.
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I guess we don't have anything to worry about then.
"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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Here is a link to the presentation by Steve Wereley on his methodology on calculating the flow rate of the leak.
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If so, what would happen if there was a catastrophic failure in the rig? How could they stop the spill thereafter?
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The big question with the leaks on the kink in the drilling riser is how much pressure drop is it providing, if any. If the current "Top Kill" fails they have another device ready to attach the the current BOP. They can either direct the oil to the surface or if needed attach another BOP to this device.
They just stated on the new that they have stopped drilling at the second relief well. The news stated that they are keeping it around for spare parts.
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