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HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

(OP)
Hi,

Any know about this HIC test and SCC test for sour service?

Stated in latest API 5L, frequency of HIC test is "One test for each of the first three heats applied; thereafter, one test for each test unit of not more than ten heats of steel"

Does anyone know what it means by heat apply? Are they referring to per batch of the pipe or what.

Thanks. Appreciated.

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

In pipe terms,'heat' and 'batch' may or may not be the same thing.  What 'heat' definitely is is the unique identification of the steel production that was used to make the pipe and it will appear on the inspection documents and should be traceable to each length of pipe.

Steve Jones
Materials & Corrosion Engineer
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/cv/11499664
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/83b/b04
 

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

(OP)
Sjones,

Can you please elaborate more? Does it mean a certain batch of steel plate made or line pipe. As we know the plate is made first and then plate are used to round into pipe and welded.

So this 'heat' means the batch from the plate or pipe.

Thanks

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

It has been decades since I was involved in line pipe.  At that time, however, a heat referred to the steel mill heat from which the skelp was produced.  At that time, API required mechanical testing to be performed at a specific frequency (a set a tests every x number of lengths produced), with a requirement that a heat control test be performed on each heat, but for a production run, only the prescribed frequency needed to be satisfied.  This permitted a manufacturer to test each heat on receipt to insure mechanical properties and make only periodic tests during production to insure his process did not degrade the properties to the point of not meeting specification.

With that understanding, I would interpret your quote to mean that the first three heats applied to a production run had to have the H2S tests performed.  After those three heats, H2S tests are to be performed at the normal testing frequency, with the additional requirement that no more than 10 heats be processed in between routine production tests.  I have not, however, read the specification you are referring to and would need to read it to be sure that this understanding is correct.

If I were you, and I could not understand the intent of the API specification, I think I'd either call
1) a line pipe manufacturer
2) a testing lab that performs the H2S test in question, or
3) API
One, or all, of these should be able to give you a clear answer.

rp

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

redpicker
Yes, you are correct.
The first 3 heats of steel must be tested and subsequently one heat out of 10.  

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

Heat means as I have defined above, whether it be applied to plate or pipe. Pipe made from plate will have the same heat number as the plate. Since you would want to take samples for testing from finished pipe, then you would have to track back to the heat number.  For production control, pipe mills may use the term 'batch' which may not directly relate to the heat, so it would be best not to confuse the terms.

Steve Jones
Materials & Corrosion Engineer
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/cv/11499664
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/83b/b04
 

RE: HIC Test (API 5L 44th ED)

(OP)
Thanks for all the answer. Appreciated.

Cheers

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