symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
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This something that needs to be fixed. Using NX4 I had alot of holes with threads attatched to them. When I had to edit the extrude that those holes are dependent on I had to reattach the holes to the edited surface. That's all nice and clean but the 144 symbolic thread feature doesn't recognise that it's the same hole and there is no way to edit the thread. THERE IS NO WAY TO REATTACH THREADS AT ALL. I haven't used 7 yet but I know it's the same way in 6. Is it really that difficult to add this? You can do it with just about any feature that requires a surface as a reference. Has anybody found a way to do it? Sorry but it really irkes me that I have to go back and reselect 144 holes and redefine the treads.





RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
I am currently the only one in our company that has used 6 at all. I use Mold Wizard and subtract bodies for threads and I should be able to reattach the threads if something changes instead of deleting the thread and redoing it. I'm just looking for some way to reattach a thread at all. The threaded hole feature I don't think I have a problem with since it's embedded one feature. Thanks for replying to my rant.
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
Regardless if it's in 6 or higher there are times when a thread feature needs to be added other than the threaded hole command and it may need to be reattached to the parent face. That's reality.
Is there some way to do this?
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
I know you can't please everyone and this was the best compromise.
This leads me to another question then. How easy is it to add updatable thread information to a subtract body similar to the auto screw in mold wizard?
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
Can this be added easily?
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Cypress, CA
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
I noted the other day that the threaded holes in the so called new hole feature introduced in NX-5, as of NX-7 still don't support any non-standard pitches, or different thread types (i.e Unified in a Metric part). Perhaps that is something to be addressed before too long.
With the older threaded hole feature I know you can edit the tables of threads so that if you really wanted to I suppose you could even add Whitworth for yourself. You can also specify an M24 X 0.5 pitch for a camera lens on the fly.
Point being thet if the intent is be to supplant the older threading method with something newer and more capable then at present it is still only halfway there.
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Hudson
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Cypress, CA
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
I must admit that I hadn't found it, but when you replied I looked harder and behold it turns up under settings, where frankly I hadn't expected it to be. Sadly, and again correct me if I'm wrong, there is no custom option that I needed for those camera threads.
Best Regards
Hudson
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John, maybe one improvement that I'm sure would get MAylward's vote would be once you've selected (or reselected) 144 holes to add a thread to and then made one, and only one, "OK" or "Apply" click, if the hole diameter, for whatever reason, does not match exactly the prescribed size necessary for whatever percentage of thread, why instead of 144 singular "OK" clicks could there not be an "OK all" button to select as well?
Using NX5 myself. If NX6 and 7 make improvements to threads I'd hope they find their way into the Mold Wizard environment. That would be a great show of support!
MAylward, do you do all of your MW screw holes WITH THREADS through the pocketing tool (e.g., drill and c'bore one plate, clearance drill thru the next plate, tap drill and thread the next plate, all at one time)?
Bob
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
Best Regards
Hudson
www.jamb.com.au
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RE: symbolic thread feature in modeling (a rant)
For the most part I'll use the pocket tool with threads unless it's a non-mold wizard assebly or I've added screws that aren't in mold-wizard. Let me be more specific about my gripe.
It's not that I've got all those holes to re-tap it's that there is no way to re-pick the faces at all. In a feature or feature detail(like blend or pocket) you can go into the dialog and repick the surface or edge that you want. With threads there was never and still is no option to repick the surface you want the thread on. Can the command be improved? Sure but I'm only looking for something that is already included with a few commands already.
Mike