Sprinkler O-Ring
Sprinkler O-Ring
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Please see attached picture. Has anyone run into this before? The rubber o-ring on this head has pushed out the side. Was this head recalled? It is a Globe Model JN 1998. I could not find any info on Globe's website.





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See attached pdf
Regards
Dave
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Thank you for the list of recalled heads. It will definitely come in handy.
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Do an internet search using globe dry recall and you will find all of the pertinent information.
Regarding the Globe Model JN (wet sprinkler) mention in the original post: I have seen problems with this sprinkler as well; however, based on my research, this sprinkler has not been recalled (please let me know if I am wrong and provide the internet link of they have been recalled)........I also wonder if this sprinkler should be officially recalled and I wonder if the CPSC has considered an official recall?
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1)1961-1976 by Mealane Corp.
2)1977-1982 by American Household(Formerly Sunbeam Corp.)
3)1996-1998 by Central Sprinkler
My point is that you must be careful before you make a statement on the inspection report because most likely if it was manufacture by any of these comapnies even Globe it probably employs an O-Ring.
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Can you tell us what the problems with the JN sprinkler were? We are somewhat at a loss to identify a cause of failure.
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I have seen sprinklers with corrosion between the plug and the sprinkler frame which did not operate during a fire due to excessive resistance caused by the corrosion. We even knocked the bulb out of one sprinkler (with 60 psi on the system) to determine whether or not the head would operate..........plug stayed in place with 60 psi on the sprinkler and the bulb gone. The plug stayed in place EVEN when we hit the head with a hammer several times!!
I personally know some sprinkler contractors that tell their customers the Central O-Ring sprinkler recall is optional.......big mistake if you ask me!
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There is no such thing as an optional replacement. I personally put three companies out of business in the past 5 years because of that mistake.
PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME ON THIS ONE OK. THIS COULD SAVE YOU MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS.
Most recalls are voluntarily however it comes down to the authority having jurisdiction.
In this case the CPSC got involved. For those of you that dont know what that means is the Consumer Product Safety Commission. They rule all recalled products in the country. If they put certain product on the market that is subject to recall you must identify this product. If you miss this product during an inspection people like me will eat you alive in court for many reasons:
1) You have a web site that claims your inspections are comprehensive.
2) Your website indicates that your firm is on top of their game.
3) You claim that your inspectors are certify to perform their assign task.
Does anybody has any other questions?
Feel free to contact me at any time.
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There seems to be some confusion in our industry regarding sprinklers which have been recalled by the CPSC. I would like to provide a black & white (no gray area) comment:
The only "voluntary" aspect of the sprinklers listed by CSPC is the fact that the manufacturer agreed to "Voluntarily" recall the sprinklers prior to the CSPC deciding to take action to recall the sprinklers. Sprinklers listed by the CSPC are recalled; "voluntarily" or not, these sprinklers should be identified and replaced.........it is not acceptable to leave the recalled sprinklers in service.
NFPA 25 (2008) A.4.1.4 Recalled products should be replaced or remedied. Such replacement or remedial product should be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions and the appropriate NFPA installation standards. A recalled product is a product subject to a statute or administrative regulation specifically requiring the manufacturer, importer, distributor, wholesaler, or retailer of a product, or any combination of such entities, to recall the product, or a product voluntarily recalled by a combination of such entities.
NFPA 25 (2008) 5.2.1.1.6 Sprinklers that are subject to recall shall be replaced per the manufacturer's requirements.
PLEASE let me know if I am wrong regarding this matter.
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I have being telling sprinkler companies that even thought it was voluntarily by the manufacturer it is mandatory by the CPSC.
I have being saying that for years. What did I miss?
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If you hired some one else ouside that scope it would have to fit the marging of labor TYCO provided.
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