"As-Built Drawings"
"As-Built Drawings"
(OP)
from the PEO website FAQ:
Q13. How should I handle engineering drawings for which I'm responsible that include changes given to me by a third party not under my direction?
A. Known as " as-built drawings," these should not be sealed. Seals should be applied only in those cases where you or your delegate have visited the site, reviewed the project during construction, and have verified every change in detail. The changes must be clearly marked on the drawings and a note referencing the original sealed drawings should be attached. These documents are referred to as "record drawings" to distinguish them from "as-built drawings".
Record drawings verified in detail by the engineer and issued to a third party must be sealed.
Is this correct for most jurisdictions? Any comments would be appreciated.
Dik
Q13. How should I handle engineering drawings for which I'm responsible that include changes given to me by a third party not under my direction?
A. Known as " as-built drawings," these should not be sealed. Seals should be applied only in those cases where you or your delegate have visited the site, reviewed the project during construction, and have verified every change in detail. The changes must be clearly marked on the drawings and a note referencing the original sealed drawings should be attached. These documents are referred to as "record drawings" to distinguish them from "as-built drawings".
Record drawings verified in detail by the engineer and issued to a third party must be sealed.
Is this correct for most jurisdictions? Any comments would be appreciated.
Dik






RE: "As-Built Drawings"
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
I work primarily in the bridge sector and found that the following terms are most common:
Conformed Set - the signed & sealed drawings that were put out for bid, including any sheets that were revised during the bid advertisement.
As-Built - prepared by the construction inspection staff that show any & all revisions. No additional PE seal is placed on the drawing. Generally, the changes marked on an As-Built are those that do not change the design intent.If during construction there is a substantial change to a design drawing is changed substantially the EOR issues a field change drawing.
Record Drawing - generally used for the final/approved shop drawing.
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
contractors often submit the redlined field drawings which are reviewed by the inspector. These may then be marked on a final "as-built" set at the end of construction. The engineer may be required to sign these but no additional stamps required.
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
In my most recient experience (Canada, bridges) there are Record Drawings which are really the As builts but not called that any more. They are signed and sealed, incorporating all changes during construction (obviously that means that the Designer agrees with the changes) and they superseed the IFC (issued for construction)set.
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
That's similar to the PEO requirement that to be sealed, the drawings must actually reflect what was *actually* constructed; this would include any changes in details, reinforcing, etc.
There doesn't seem to be a general concensus... amongst engineers or professional associations.
Dik
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
This is the typical issue that should be discussed with the client at te very beguining and reflected very clearly in the contract althoguh very rarely it is done.
In my case, the owner are ministries and they have very clear, definitive ideas of what they want and what they will accept.
To muddle things more, it is the issue of shop drawings being incorporated on the as 'As builts' or not. Oppinions on that are all over the map too.
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
Dik
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
What we do generally is take the markups by the contractor, our RFI/change order records, etc. and incorporate them in to a RECORD SET that is not sealed by a PE.
Rather, we place a disclaimer on the plans stating that the information contained in these plans is based upon information provided to "yourfirmname" by "contractorfirmname".
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
Dik
RE: "As-Built Drawings"
I have never run into the situation where "Record Drawings" were required. Under no circumstances would I seal them, given the level of inspection that is normally done.
Like JAE, I have received As-Built drawings from the contractor which I do not seal. I never certify the work of a Contractor. However, if the As-Built drawings indicate changes which affect the structure, I would consider it my responsibility to ensure that those changes are acceptable or that remedial measures are taken to make them acceptable.
BA