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How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

(OP)
Hi everyone

Now I have a problem of welding end valve

I donot how to choose the type of SCH No.

only have ASME B16.25,ASME B16.34 and ASME B36.10M

Is that anyone tell me how to choose,when the valve

rating is 150LB,300LB,600LB,900LB,1500LB,2500LB

regards

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

Someone will have determined the "Design Pressure" for the piping system. A Class rating is selected to ensure that the flanges and valves have a pressure rating greater than the design pressure.  Using the design code (e.g., B31.3) the required wall thickness is calculated (either using the design pressure or the pressure rating of the flanges/valve class that has been selected).

Now you would order a butt weld valve that was the Class you required and that had butt weld ends that were the same schedule as the pipe that had been selected.

This would be the normal case when the steel used in the valves had the same allowable stress value (or greater) than the pipe.  If the valves had a lower allowable stress value than the pipe then you would have a problem to sort out but this is very unusual.  In this case, you might specify a thicker schedule for the valve ends and then you might need transition pieces to allow welding into the line.

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

(OP)
rneill,so good,thankyou

Normally,Is that have contrast about rating and pipe type

such as,welding end valve of rating 2500lb,we will choose

SCH160 or XXS,and the other,what is contrast?

regards

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

If you have a Class 2500 welding end valve you would choose the SCH160 or SCH XXS based on the pipe that the valve will be welded to.

For example, if the pipe materials has the same allowable stress value as the valve material, and the pipe is Sch 160 then the valve needs to be Sch 160. If the pipe is Sch XXS then the valve needs to be Sch XXS.

If you do not know what schedule of pipe is being used, you can not specify the valve.

NOTE: it is important that the above is only true if the pipe and the valve have the same allowable stress value. If the pipe is stronger than the valve then the valve needs to be thicker than the pipe.

I don't know what you mean by "contrast". Can you give me an example of how this is used or referred to?

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

(OP)
Hi rneill

I must say thankyou again.

I mean that what is the valve welding type, when the pipe

type is no determine.and I choose must be suitable General

situation.maybe a form such as flow:

valve class   pipe type

2500lb         sch160
1500lb         sch80
900lb          sch80
600lb          sch40
...            ...
 

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

I'm sorry but it really isn't clear what you're asking ?

I think you are saying if you don't know what pipe will be used, what would be a suitable general valve schedule.

The answer to this question would be this:

Obtain a copy of ASME B31.3, select a pipe material with the same allowable stress value as your valve, calculate what pipe wall thickness is required (you will have to assume some corrosion allowance) and then specify this as your valve schedule. If you have any concerns, make the valve schedule higher and the customer can always machine it down to match the pipe. They can't increase the thickness if it is to thin.

The required schedule will normally calculate out to a different Schedule for different diameters so different sizes will be different Schedules.

Sorry but I don't think anyone in the forum is going to do the calculations for you.

RE: How to choose the valve welding type by ASME B36.10M

(OP)
Ye,thankyou,I will try

I must be fine,I think

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