Revit Scheduling, do you charge
Revit Scheduling, do you charge
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We are currently setting up schedules within Revit Structure 2010 that will do take offs for us giving us each wall what rebar they will need with lengths, bends etc. We also have the rebar tonnage take off and yardage of concrete. Have other firms done this? If so, do you charge extra for this scheduling for ease of bidding? And how do you go about charging for this? Thanks






RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while you realize that they like it
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RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
There is a myriad of potential problems associated with this...
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The schedules need to be checked if you are going to put them on the drawings.
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Revit = DumbBIM
Tekla = SmartBIM
Just my opinion though.
Actually, wait........you guys are my competition....doh.
Use Revit, it is the greatest program ever developed! That many architects could not possibly be wrong.
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1. Working in 3D modelling space where all consultants work on one central file is great. Except the fact that consultants are not working on a central file but separate individual files, create 2D plans, convert back to AutoCad files, send to other consultants who import into their files and find that nothing co-ordinates and everything is clashing.
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First thing is to make sure you have revit structural not arch, or when you get onto steel detailing your head will exploded. Using revit to do estimating didn't cut down on the overall process time, because we found checking time increased, double if you have a drafty who is fresh. The other problem with revit was the time taken to do detailing of non-standard connections was onerous, unitl we decided it was best to draw these in autocad and import into revit.
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while you realize that they like it
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That is how we are trying to approach Revit, give our contractors some close numbers to do their numbers with. I believe with Reviit you could be just as close as their estimators. But would you be able to charge for this...or probably just include it in your fees at the start. Then if you do it in your bid, you get outbid by the other guys, but you are providing them so much more.
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On the other hand, if it is a fast track job where you ask for bids on incomplete drawings, based on your quantity and degree of difficulty estimates, you must provide the numbers. But then, when the real numbers are known they are change ordered into the contract and the contract cost updated .
Michael.
Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
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Did any of you evaluate more than one BIM program before choosing.
It seems that most of you use Revit, but I do not understand why you would choose Revit over Tekla.
My only guess is that you have not seen very much of Tekla, or that your Architect uses Revit, so you do too.
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RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
RE: Revit Scheduling, do you charge
Tekla was developed in Finland, they have a US headquarters in ATL. The cost is abour $10k compared to Revit which I believe is about $5k. Tekla Structures was formerly known as XSteel, a steel detailing program. Eventually the program evolved from detailing steel connections to concrete and wood as well (SDS/2 focuses on steel only, very well I might add, this program actuially designs all steel connections for you).
Tekla is a very powerful BIM program for structural engineering and has many downstream benefits. For example, the same program is used to produce shop drawings which can be checked and approved in the model. They also have solved the problem of huge file sizes.
This is a program that every structural engineer should at least be familiar with, half of the shop drawings you review are probably produced by Tekla. For more info check out thier website, you can open up models and you will probably see some famous building you recognize.