MHA vs MBA/MIS?
MHA vs MBA/MIS?
(OP)
I have worked as a lean manufacturing Engineer for about 5 years. I'm considering going back to school for a graduate Program. which program would better complement my work experience?. which give me a better shot at landing a job without experience?.
Masters in Health Administration
OR
Managment in Information Systems.
Masters in Health Administration
OR
Managment in Information Systems.





RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
If so I don't really see the applicability of Masters in Health Administration.
What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
Not that I am in any way bitter...
Regards,
SNORGY.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
My suggestion would be MBA / MIS, not MHA.
I concur with KENAT.
Regards,
SNORGY.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
-Kirby
Kirby Wilkerson
Remember, first define the problem, then solve it.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
No i'm not wanting to stay in Engineering, but My thought process was that once I graduate and i'm competing for jobs with other graduates, I figured I can get an edge by showing my work experience. I was considering MHA because I know Lot of healthcare organizations are trying to implement Lean principles?.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
I don't think most engineering MBA wannabes are money-grubbing ladder-climbers. The ones that are quit engineering completely and go to Harvard full-time. I think most are poor innocent souls who are in jobs they hate and don't know how to get out AND keep paying their bills.
I loved engineering school, but I loathed my first job. . .the job I was in when I enrolled in my MBA program. I think that happens to a lot of people. I had friends who were bored in their jobs, but they were happy with the location, hours, salary, etc. The MBA is like a placebo. It makes you feel like you are doing something about your situation, even though you really aren't.
I am sorry, this post seemed to go off on a tangent of its own. . .
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
Sorry about that. Refer to TheTick and Snorgy's first comment. That's what I'm replying to.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
I was thinking along the same lines as you mentioned about MHA, but what I found is that there are very few accredited programs, and apparently there are a lot of pre med students or student with medical background going into the program...and I have a feeling that healthcare industry might prefer that.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
We're not really bashing MBA's...
The comments are made tongue-in-cheek for the most part, and usually arise whenever there is the ever-present conflict that exists in engineering between "being correct" and "being profitable" (or billable). Invariably, "engineering" loses those conflicts, and while business prospers, laws and rules get bent, things stop working and people get hurt.
Regards,
SNORGY.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
No hard feelings.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
A couple more comments. . .
You said you have a feeling that the industry may prefer premeds --> MHA. I'm not so sure. Premeds going into MHA are probably a lot of kids who either didn't get into med school or just decided they didn't want to do that and can't find jobs with just their BS in Biology. On the other hand, I do think that most top-level hosp admin jobs go to doctors and nurses.
Unless you were looking at doing the MHA for the purpose of working at a consulting firm, you might try volunteering in a hospital. I was a greeter in an emergency department. It's boring and you might have to do some other stuff like clean rooms, but you do get exposure to a hospital setting to see if you like it. You could also get some face time with hospital administrators to see if you like that type of job, and learn what they are really looking for. For more MHA info, you should look at SDN.com (student doctor network). They have a great forum, and one subforum is for MPH people, but MHA students/prospective students also post there.
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I work at an engineering company where business cards are being ordered for the five dozen professional engineers, engineers in training, and registered professional technologists; i.e., the people with official Canadian professional designations of P.Eng., E.I.T. and R.P.T. These folks have worked rather hard to obtain these accreditations and titles as professionals, the same way that a doctor or a professor or even a lawyer has.
It very recently came to pass that one senior manager in the company - who is not an engineer but looks after accounting and some BD, and who has an MBA, CMA or equivalent such non-engineering designation - took it upon herself / himself to not put the "dots" in those designations on the business cards, because "...I don't want them and that's the end of the discussion...".
The people with those hard-earned designations perceive this as insulting and a trivialization of their well-earned and what ought to be respected titles. In point of fact, the same cavalier and unilateral attitude often finds its way into how engineering is done ("...we're not checking that, we're only going to do this..."; "...we're not investing $750.00 in 50 runs of CAESAR II, we are spending $50,0000.00 on a new timesheet module...").
If MBA's stopped doing stuff like that, then chances are, engineers would stop bashing them.
Regards,
SNORGY.
RE: MHA vs MBA/MIS?
Then why on earth are you asking career advice from a bunch of Engineers?
What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?