solid wire and pull elbows
solid wire and pull elbows
(OP)
I searched my code book for 2hrs the other night trying to find an old rule regarding the use of solid wire in conduit.
Maybe someone can help me here.
I think I read in my old Canadian code book years ago that you cannot use solid wire in pull elbows. But I cannot find any reference to it in my new code book.
Was this rule removed? Or did I just imagine it?
I am working with a contrator who loves solid wire. Mostly #12 and #10 awg. And the more wire in the pipe the better. This contractor also doesn`t understand the concept of a maximum number of bends between pull points. Major pain in the ass this stuff is. They also like tiny little pull elbows because they look better.
I don't understand their reasoning. The more room the better I say. A box is way roomier than a pull fitting and so much easier to work with.
I also think stranded T90 wire is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I just spent a week pulling wire for a job that should have taken 2 days. I used to be able to push wires easily by myself with no help using stranded wire. Now I need help for every run with solid wire.
Why do people use this shit? Do they think they are saving money?
Can someone point me to a rule in the Ontario Electrical Safety Code please regarding the use and restrictions of use for solid wire?
Maybe someone can help me here.
I think I read in my old Canadian code book years ago that you cannot use solid wire in pull elbows. But I cannot find any reference to it in my new code book.
Was this rule removed? Or did I just imagine it?
I am working with a contrator who loves solid wire. Mostly #12 and #10 awg. And the more wire in the pipe the better. This contractor also doesn`t understand the concept of a maximum number of bends between pull points. Major pain in the ass this stuff is. They also like tiny little pull elbows because they look better.
I don't understand their reasoning. The more room the better I say. A box is way roomier than a pull fitting and so much easier to work with.
I also think stranded T90 wire is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I just spent a week pulling wire for a job that should have taken 2 days. I used to be able to push wires easily by myself with no help using stranded wire. Now I need help for every run with solid wire.
Why do people use this shit? Do they think they are saving money?
Can someone point me to a rule in the Ontario Electrical Safety Code please regarding the use and restrictions of use for solid wire?






RE: solid wire and pull elbows
"Theory is when you know all and nothing works. Practice is when all works and nobody knows why. In this case we have put together theory and practice: nothing works... and nobody knows why! (Albert Einstein)
RE: solid wire and pull elbows
A pull elbow is much smaller than an LB. Maybe 1/4 the volume of an LB.
RE: solid wire and pull elbows
See;
http://www.aifittings.com/i_8.htm
Bill
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RE: solid wire and pull elbows
"Theory is when you know all and nothing works. Practice is when all works and nobody knows why. In this case we have put together theory and practice: nothing works... and nobody knows why! (Albert Einstein)
RE: solid wire and pull elbows
I am aware of no restrictions for either type in pull elbows, but do not have specific knowledge of the Canadian Electrical Code.
From Waross' reference though, it would make sense, there does not seem to be much turn radius available through those fittings. I imaging using these meets the requirement for the number of bends between pulling locations, but what a terrible installation.
Sorry I can't be of any help.