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ground fault detectors in automatic train control

ground fault detectors in automatic train control

ground fault detectors in automatic train control

(OP)
Can someone help me.  I need to know if there are any rules and or regulations in place that say what level, in terms of ohms, to set a ground fault detector.  Please can anyone point me in the right direction??  thank you.

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

It'd be in milliamps, wouldn't it?
 

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

Ask the D.C. MTA... I'm sure they'd have some interesting info as of the last few months noevil

Dan - Owner
http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

(OP)
this is for automatic train control. The ground detector determines the ground leakage and alarms the maintainence crew when there is too much leakage. If it is set too high it will be too temperamental(something as little as rain could trip the alarm), if set too low it could cause the signal to turn red inadvertently which causes the trip switch to rise. The train engineer may blow through the red signal. Also, the trip switch will cause the breaks to lock. Im asking if there is a regulation in place that states what an appropriate level is to set the ground fault detector so it is neither too temperamental, yet will not allow too much leakage.

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

Ah, I see. My previous post was way off base. Disregard.

 

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

I thought train controls ran on 72V DC.

Does GFI even work on DC?

 

Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

Several aspects on this.

First. It is not about ordinary GFI (aka RCD), I think. Or is it?

Second. The ATC works (at least on most European railways) by detecting the wheel axles shorting both rails. The system uses low voltage and high current and usually some weird frequencies to make the function insensitive to ordinary traction currents and its harmonics. I can also imagine that DC is being used.

Third. Yes, there are DC GFIs. Bender has one.

Four. Need to know if you really mean detection of ground faults on the live rail (signalwise) or if you are asking about something else.

Five. If it is about detecting ground faults on the live rail, then I am not aware of a "standard" setting. Must be more than milliamps.

Gunnar Englund
www.gke.org
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RE: ground fault detectors in automatic train control

Thanks for the education, Gunnar.

 

Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

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