Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
(OP)
It isn't a paycut to my base salary. I work on a rotational basis, and about 10% of our income is in the form of bonuses for relocating on every assignment we go on, which can last anywhere from 6-12 months each. The structure of these bonuses have changed so that we're getting screwed out of most of it
Also we found out today that if we're fired or leave the company within 2 years after relocating, there going to force us to pay that bonus back. Wtf is that bullshit? I hate my job and even in this economy, i'm looking for a way out. No luck yet though. These weren't the terms I agreed to when coming on board.
My question is what can and will my company do if I to leave, they want me to pay back past bonuses, and I'm like "Nope! Srry lol"
Also we found out today that if we're fired or leave the company within 2 years after relocating, there going to force us to pay that bonus back. Wtf is that bullshit? I hate my job and even in this economy, i'm looking for a way out. No luck yet though. These weren't the terms I agreed to when coming on board.
My question is what can and will my company do if I to leave, they want me to pay back past bonuses, and I'm like "Nope! Srry lol"





RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Meaning no disrespect here though, it would serve you well to quell your emotions and temper the language as that too, if you think about it, is not professional either.
Remember that you gather more flies with honey than vinegar.
Good luck...
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Unless it was agreed to beforehand, they should not be able to retroactively dock your pay.
TTFN
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RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Having to pay back relocation money if employer terminates you is also out-of-bounds.
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Well, they can sue.
They might not win. In fact, they probably won't win, and the probably even know that.
But it will cost you to call their bluff, so you're screwed either way.
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
If you are in the UK speak to ACAS.
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
You need another job if at all possible.
If jobs are really that tight where you are, you may be screwed. If ever you can screw them without it damaging your reputation, then revenge is sweet, but it can often come back to bite you in ways you failed to realise where possible.
Starting out yourself in opposition and doing better than they do then taking a truckload of valuable staff and customers from them is always the best revenge.
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Pat
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RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Unless you signed an agreement stating that you agree to repay previous bonuses if they fire you, then the point is moot. If they present you a document to sign, politely say "no thanks." They have no legal standing upon which to make such a demand. If they terminate your employment and then send you a letter demanding repayment, keep it for your records. Politely respond with the demand that they produce a record of some such agreement. Otherwise ignore this nonsense.
Document all of this very well. Learn to judiciously use the modern-day hot button phrases: "hostile workplace", "harassment", "unfair practices", and what not.
Quitting and being required to repay bonuses etc., is indeed common practice. But ONLY if you have signed some sort of agreement. If no agreement, then...
TygerDawg
Blue Technik LLC
Virtuoso Robotics Engineering
www.bluetechnik.com
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Fanman are they paying your moving expenses or is the bonus their way of paying your moving expenses? If not then don't accept the next move without the expenses paid, and not returnable if you get fired. (I might consider giving them 2 years notice now, it might shake things up a bit, but only if you can take a period of unemployment).
Peter Stockhausen
Senior Design Analyst (Checker)
Infotech Aerospace Services
www.infotechpr.net
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
"If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance!"
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
"so if you are "getting screwed out of" all the bonus money, there really isn't anything to pay back when you get fired is there? You could hire an attorney and fight this, but don't expect to get a glowing recommendation for your next job. Hope you have a lot of money put away until you get that next job. "
After taxes, certain expenses in finding a place to live, the relocation bonus is much smaller about half of what it used to be in terms of what goes into our bank account. However they want us to be responsible in paying back back everything, including the tax liability. It's ridiculous
RE: Just got a paycut, how to proceed?
Or be pragmatic, realise the economy has gone down the gurglar and grin and bear it. move to a cheaper suburb , spend less on frivolous things, get a second job and accept that the big USA is not the land of the free and you are just a small pawn in the scheme of things.
The economic crisis was created by the big end of town because the "pawns" wanted too much for their services. So much so there was a so called shortage of engineers. The pawns are just being snapped back in there box and the Chinese being given a serve from the masters..