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Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
There are student versions avilable for Catia V5, Solidworks, a mutitude of Autodesk products including Inventor, and Pro/e I belive.  For someone looking to expand ther skill set of cad applications, these are highly usefull in developing a proficency on a new software.

How come Seimens doesn't offer student versions of NX and/or Solid Edge?  Gaining any experince on this software outside of getting a job where these applications are used (catch 22 applies) or taking a course at a university or college (provided you are eligible to audit the course) would be next to impossible.

I'm in the Columbus OH area.

Ideas?  Suggestions?

The glass is operating at %50 capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Ubercad, there are indeed student versions of Solid Edge and NX.  I believe that you just need to be a student enrolled in a program using them to get a student copy such as an engineering student at The Ohio State University.  For clarification, I would suggest calling and enquiring about it with the Solid Edge VAR, Engineering Methods (www.engmeth.com).

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

My son is a student at Auburn and gets the Solid Edge Student edition almost for free (I think the university charges to make a copy).  University of Cincinnati should be the same. I don't know about OSU.

BTW, I was born and raised just outside of Columbus (Lancaster).

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
when you say "enrolled in a programm", would that entail becoming a full time student, declaring a major and then  completeing several prerequiste courses to get into the class that would allow me to get SE?  At 41, I have no plans of enrolling at Ohio State (or any other college)and pursuing another engineering degree just to get a student copy of Solid Edge.  If I can merely audit a class that would allow me to get the student version, that would be fine.

How long does the licence last?   

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RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
burhop,

Thanks for the link, but I didn't see anything of any use there, unless I missed something...

I used NX3 for about a year, over a year ago.  It would be nice to have access to the software, some way or another, to keep up my skills and develop a few more.

Maybe a PLM cafe, where people could pay by the hour to work with various apps.  I'd be willing to pay, say $3.99/hr, or a monthly membership of $50/month.

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Around here (eastern Canada), colleges offer evening courses to people wanting to learn new skills. You don't need to enroll in a program. I'm sure it's the same in the USA.

There's a 42-hour course on Solid Edge Advanced Techniques that's starting next October, one night a week. I'm thinking of taking it, even though I probably already know 2/3 of the material. I'm pretty sure they offer a student licence of SE so you can practice at home.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
HDS

Your link to journeyed.com did not yield any results for obtaining and affordable verion of Solid Edge or NX, just books.

Seems ther are a lot more books for Solidworks, AutoCAD and Pro/E than for the Seimens products.

Hmmm....

I begining to think that solid edge is one of those "fringe" cad apps like Ironcad or Keycreator (CADKey).

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

to get a copy of an academic version of

- Inventor, SWX, SE(NX?)
  you have to be a student either University, Highschool or any
  other educational unit
  If these units have a campus license then they can give
  you a copy/license free of charge.
  When this is not the case you can request a copy from the
  software company by providing your valid 'student' ID and the
  name of the school, university, ...
  - Inventor --> free of charge
  - SWX -> ??
  - SE -> might charge you
  - NX --> ??
  
  SWX and SE offer a HomeUse license. When you are an employee of
  a company that uses one of these products the HomeUse license can be
  generated free of charge (1 full version = 1 HomeUse license). You
  must however carry out 80% of your daily work with that CAD to be
  eligible for that type of license
  
- Pro/E
  - AFAIK everyone can get an academic copy, price approx. 200$ ??
  - for students it might be lower or even free of charge

  
dy

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

@ ubercad

Solid Edge is not as "fringe" as IronCad or KeyCreator, but it is definitely more marginal than SolidWorks, Inventor, Pro|E or Catia. You can find tons of online resources for those, almost nothing for SE, unfortunately. sad

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
I am aware of the home use concept and that is a good option if you work at a company that uses SE.  I, unfortunately unemployed a the moment.

As for the student approach see my postings on the UG/NX thread:

 http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=251660&page=1

I was half joking about the "fringe" comment. If I meant it, I woundn't be making such a fuss about it.  

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
HDS,

Yeah, prior to this post, I inquired about that, filled out the info on the website.  I was contacted a few days later by a representative and was told they would send someone to install it on my machine but only if I was a company considering purchasing it.  Not my current situation.  

Siemens, IMHO, is not interested in letting the general public have access to Solid Edge or nx.

General public: excludes those enrolled in an institution of higher learning that uses solidedge (even then you may not get a copy for your computer) and those working at a company where one has access to a home use license.

my options:

1) Lie to gain a position at a company where knowledge of solidedge is required so I can get a home use license so I can learn solidedge.
2) Try to enroll at Ohio state and audit a class to get access to the software.  Access might mean use could be restricted to a computer lab on campus.
3) Obtain a bootleg version.  This could potentionally be the easiest option but with some risk of course.
 

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

"Siemens, IMHO, is not interested in letting the general public have access to Solid Edge or nx"

I had exactly the same problem with SolidWorks when I was unemployed recently. I contacted a supplier to get a 30-day copy to brush up my skills but was told no chance.

A local AutoCad supplier, however, did offer me a 30 day copy of Inventor to play with. Fortunately I got a job before I got the software.
 

bc.
2.4GHz Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM,
Quadro FX4600.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

"Fortunately I got a job before I got the software."

LOL, BC.

I don't understand this reluctance from Siemens PLM to distribute try-outs to people wanting to learn their software on their own.

Our ex-VAR's representative told me they were always on the look-out for people knowledgeable in SE, on behalf of their customers, and that they were hard to find.

Autodesk and Solidworks have had their "engineering stimulus package" programs, giving away time-limited copies of their software to people out of work. Siemens lost a good occasion there, IMHO.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

.. and do not forget Alibre's $99 action: full version 11.2
upgradable to V12 and their AlibreXpress -- freeware, usage
is unlimited
The only thing Siemens has to offer is the free 2D-Drafting
-- did I hear any laughing ...
 
dy  

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Yeah Don, I am strongly tempted to buy one licence of Alibre for my personal use. At this price it's a steal.

As for Alibre Xpress, I've read it has severe limitations.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

> As for Alibre Xpress, I've read it has severe limitations.

yup, it has -- but it might still be good enough for the hobbyist.
It's an appetizer, the main goal is: spread the software ...

dy

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

One thing ubercad failed to mention was that in the NX forum, a Siemens employee posted that Siemens was working on something along the lines of student versions but he didn't have any timeframe or further details at the moment (that was earlier this week).

I can't speak for SE, but years ago UG/Creator was the student version of UG.  I think it had a few limitations, but cannot recall for sure.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.
www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
from beachcomer:

"I had exactly the same problem with SolidWorks when I was unemployed recently. I contacted a supplier to get a 30-day copy to brush up my skills but was told no chance."

Obtaining a student version is as easy as registering and signing up for a class - probably something cad related.  That is what I have done to obtain the student versions.  Just supply them with a photocopy of you student I.D. and download the software from the website or purchase it from a number of different on-line academic supply stores and you've got a copy of it for 12 months.  AutoCAD and Inventor offer 61 month terms.  Others offer a personal use version.

The company who you obtain the software from doesn't seem to check whether or not the institution that you received your student I.D. from even uses the software you are obtaining from them.

This doesn't seem to be the case with Seimens.  Yet....
 

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

As long as you have an email of the type *.edu you can download the Inventor previous version for free. I used an alumni email from my University to get the student version.

If you are unemployeed SolidWorks and even Inventor I believe have created Stimulus Packages where you can qualify for free training and software to help build your skills.

Michael

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Quote (beachcomber):

I had exactly the same problem with SolidWorks when I was unemployed recently. I contacted a supplier to get a 30-day copy to brush up my skills but was told no chance.
The VAR was wrong!
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/esp/engineering_stimulus_package.html
The software license lasts for 90 days, but can usually be renewed. The software is the Premium version, but drawings are watermarked to prevent use in commercial applications, and models cannot be opened with commercially licensed versions.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

CBL,
The VAR may be have been wrong, but they were just not interested as it was probably not going to result in a sale.
How long has this package been available? - I was enquiring about 6 months ago.

bc.
2.4GHz Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM,
Quadro FX4600.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

I believe it was April 2009, but even before that they were offering a Personal Edition under a '3D Skills' promotion.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

if you are not unemployed you can go to  VAR's seminar and get a 30day full blown premium edition with no watermarking that is compatible with full versions. As long as you are interested in buying or can possibly get the company you work for to buy the full edition you can get additional 30day periods if you are friendly with the sales rep.

Michael

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

(OP)
Um... seems like this discusion has veered off course a bit.  We are discussing SolidEDGE here.

But I just stumbled across this...

http://www.archwaysystems.com/archway/prodsolidedge.htm

I wonder why this never turned up in my previous searches?

Now if Seimens would offer a student version of NX....

 

The glass is operating at 50% capacity.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?


... me too

dy

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

V16 is really old. I guess it's always possible they found "legitimate" licences somewhere. From companies closing for example. At my former employer, a new salesman came in with copies of V10, as he was previously the owner of a mfg. company and had bought the software. Although, I don't think the EULA allows for resale of licences.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

> Although, I don't think the EULA allows for resale of licences.

that's correct. A license can only be transferred ($$) and
Siemens/UGS must agree

dy

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

But it can be transfered? That I didn't know. I must confess I didn't read the EULA in its entirety (who does anyway?).

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Most cad companies refuse to allow transfers of licenses unless the entire company has been sold.

RE: Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

Be advised that one SHOULD be VERY skeptical of that 'lunderkin' site as anything you purchase there may prove to 'cost' much more than advertised winky smile

As for the Archway Systems site, that one is legitimate.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

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