Heat treatment of Hinge
Heat treatment of Hinge
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I have a MS20001A-9 Hinge that is being used on a door in a galley. This is a "Piano" type hinge.
It is maunfactured from Extruded 7075-T73511.
I want to modify the hinge from the As Recieved condition by bending one leg of the hinge so the fasteners attaching it to the door are hidden from the passengers.
To make the bend at a small bend radius is it going to be possible heat treat to annealed condition, bend the leg and re-heat treat to T73.
I am concerned that the heat treatment process (expansion and contraction during heating and cooling) will affect the dimensions of the hinge at the hinge line.
For example the required concentricity of the pin hole is 0.005 inches and maybe after heat treatment it won't be possible to insert the pin into the hinge.
Anyone have any thoughts or experience about the effect of the heat treatment?
Thanks
It is maunfactured from Extruded 7075-T73511.
I want to modify the hinge from the As Recieved condition by bending one leg of the hinge so the fasteners attaching it to the door are hidden from the passengers.
To make the bend at a small bend radius is it going to be possible heat treat to annealed condition, bend the leg and re-heat treat to T73.
I am concerned that the heat treatment process (expansion and contraction during heating and cooling) will affect the dimensions of the hinge at the hinge line.
For example the required concentricity of the pin hole is 0.005 inches and maybe after heat treatment it won't be possible to insert the pin into the hinge.
Anyone have any thoughts or experience about the effect of the heat treatment?
Thanks





RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
I have some reservations about bending an extrusion parallel to the L direction, even if you have taken it to the W condition. I'd probably use a sheetmetal type MS20257 hinge if I wanted to bend a flange.
You may want to call the folks at Guden hinge and pose your question to them. They have provided decent tech support in the past.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
As an alternative, you may be able to design a separate piece (plastic?) that can be attached behind your hinge and then fold over the fasteners...like the covers of toilet bolts.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
Or there are some Hidden hinges available as used in Business aircraft where the hinge is not visable at all.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
I am aware its not preferable to bend an extrusion parallel to the L direction but the companies process spec for bending extrusions does not place any limits on the orientation of the extrusion when bending.
The problem I am wondering about is each tang of the hinge getting heated and cooled during heat treatment thus deflecting slightly from the initial position and then the holes in each tang for the hinge pin not being concentric anymore.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
Distortion during heat treatment is quite common, so is specifying a hand straightening operation while the material is in the AQ condition.
B.E.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
Berkshire is correct... distortion resulting from HT will kill You.
What about...
Option A...
MS20001-9 [2024-T3511]. Cold or warm [300F] bend over a R0.19" radius... then age harden per AMS2770 to -T8511 [will provide post-bend stress relief and improve strength increase].
Option B...
Make hinge from a bulbed bar-type extrusion, such as Transtar metals "B04" profiles [Alloy per Your spec].
Make as follows...
Form in W temper (0.12BR for 0.050 thick) and straighten A/R. Age-harden to final temper [2024-T81 or 7075-T73].
Machine hinge nodes to match MS20001-9 pattern. Deburr.
Gun-drill 0.093"-Dia hinge-node holes. NOTE: will need to make (tool-steel) drill-guide for this operation.
Option C...
Machine Your hinge profile from bar-stock [alloy-full temper] Machine hinge nodes to match MS20001-9 pattern. deburr. Gun-drill 0.093"-Dia hinge-node holes. NOTE: will need to make (tool-steel) drill-guide for this operation.
Regards, Wil Taylor
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
I am going to propose these other solutions to the designers.
RE: Heat treatment of Hinge
I had an incomplete statement/thought in option A... should have read as follows...
Option A...
MS20001-9 [2024-T3511]. Cold or warm [300F] bend over a R0.19" radius... then age harden per AMS2770 to -T8511 [will provide post-bend stress relief, increase strength and improve SCC resistance].
Regards, Wil Taylor