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Nitriding vs Carbonitriding vs Carburizing of H13 Tool SteelHelpful Member! 

kingsley47 (Materials)
31 Jul 09 11:23
I am looking to improve the wear life of some forging dies used at my manufacturing plant. The dies are made of H13 tool steel. I have very little experience with case hardening via chemical absorption and I just wanted to know if anyone had any tips on what I should take into consideration when choosing a surface hardening process. Would one process yield significantly better results than another? Etc...
Any tips would help because when I say I have very little experience in surface hardening I mean I attended one lecture a year ago at an ASM meeting and I remember the basics that I learned in college. So I know enough to be dangerous...
Thanks,
CoryPad (Materials)
31 Jul 09 13:25
Nitriding is an option, but the other two usually aren't used for tool steel dies.  Other options are chromium electroplating, hardfacing alloys, and cermet and ceramic coating/inserts (WC, TiN).
Helpful Member!  TVP (Materials)
31 Jul 09 15:12
Nitriding of H13 forging tools is very common.  Neither of the other processes are used, as CoryPad mentioned.  There is a ton of information available on the web regarding nitriding in general, and nitriding of forging tools in specific.  Here are some links:

http://www.ahtweb.com/content.php?id=31&t=Technical_Papers

http://www.forging.org/FIERF/pdf/walker.pdf

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=nitriding+H13+forging&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=pdf&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&;as_qdr=all&as_rights=&;as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
 
unclesyd (Materials)
2 Aug 09 23:38
If your parts are amenable to this process we got better results on tool steels D2, H11, H13, CrMoVan, etc with the TD (VC-NbC} process versus Nitrided parts, especially the H11.  
 
http://www.richterprecision.com/td-trd-coatings.html

 
Frederick (Materials)
6 Aug 09 14:34
Try cryogenic processing.  True cryogenic processing (not cold treating) should give you about double the life.

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