NX6 Transform...
NX6 Transform...
(OP)
when launching the Transform function, it seems that Scale is the default type. How can i change it to display all transformation types at launch i.e. translate, rotate about a point, rotate about a line, etc...?
I am finding that i must select through the scale options until the option allows me to change the transformation type when all i want is Translate function.
confusing, isn't it...
I am finding that i must select through the scale options until the option allows me to change the transformation type when all i want is Translate function.
confusing, isn't it...
PMc
CNC Programmer





RE: NX6 Transform...
Edit -> Move Object...
...instead.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
I will take a look at Move Object, but I really miss the Translation function dialog from NX3...
PMc
CNC Programmer
RE: NX6 Transform...
As for the OLD, OUTDATED, NON-ASSOCIATIVE, NX 3 style Transform, it is just that, OLD OUTDATED and NON-ASSOCIATIVE, and for the most part has been replaced by Move Object and a few other more modern functions, some of which have been part of NX for some time now.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
I'm a bit puzzled by the associative 'move' option, though (an associative 'copy' is understandable, but 'move'?). So, to the users of associative 'moves': what good use have you put this to? does it make it easier to model? easier to maintain your model? does it make your model more robust? In what situation is it necessary or desirable? What problem has it solved for you? In short, why is it a good thing?
RE: NX6 Transform...
The point I'm making is that if your designs would benefit from being able to explicitly MOVE models, or parts of models (not components in an Assembly, but parts of an actual design model), this may be the tool you'll want to consider using.
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
Let's say that you have a standard, commercial-off-the-shelf item (like a motor, for example), which defines the location of several other items in an assembly. You could obtain a solid model of the motor from the manufacturer, import or un-associative WAVE link the body into your design master part, and then use Associative Move features to place the motor with respect to datums etc in your design master part. Then you could use features on the dumb solid (such as mounting hole locations, shaft axes, etc) to control and define other datums etc in your design master, and in derived parts and assemblies down the road.
This might be an unorthodox approach to design masters and WAVE modeling, but it can be pretty useful sometimes.
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PMc
CNC Programmer
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RE: NX6 Transform...
While I do sympathize with you in regards to getting used to something new, I don't think you're going to get very far with your preference for the old Transform command instead of Move Object. Please do not think of my response here as being critical, because that's not my intent. Basically, Siemens changed the Transform dialog at the users' request and now we have Move Object in its place. Siemens usually doesn't backtrack to old methods unless the new methods are really poor and not really helpful as a whole.
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PMc
CNC Programmer
RE: NX6 Transform...
I'm still getting familiar with the enhancements of NX6 but my work load is backing up tremendously... I do appreciate the help from forums like these and this, to me, is the best forum for NX.
PMc
CNC Programmer
RE: NX6 Transform...
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
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Bill
RE: NX6 Transform...
well thanks for your reconsideration of not removing this, i would definately be scratching my head then. and maybe this will be of some help to another poor soul like myself who struggles with change
PMc
CNC Programmer
RE: NX6 Transform...
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX6 Transform...
what is missing is a simple TRANSLATE DELTA, without having to specify points and delta coordinates on the WCS.
RE: NX6 Transform...
John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX6 Transform...
John, forgot to thank you for that. Works like a charm! Took me about 10 mins because I'd not changed keyboard shortcuts in several years. Btw, I think it should be under Preferences but... that's an Oprah for another day.<g>
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Bill
RE: NX6 Transform...
RE: NX6 Transform...
Using the keyboard hit (Ctrl t), pick your object,on the menu hit OK,pick mirror through line or plane, pick your choice in the model,next menu that comes up is the old transform menu and you are good to go, it is fast and as you know you just hit return and move as you always did in the past, not all of us care about about associativity, we care about speed and get the tool built, there are certainly some nice features in NX6 when it works without internal errors which as we were told would be fixed in NX7.
Hans
RE: NX6 Transform...
Now for Move Object, select your body, then using the Motion type 'Dynamic' you will see the 3 directional/3 rotational handles come up. Select the desired one and enter your incremental value and press the 'Enter' key on your keyboard. Now if you continue to press 'Enter' it will continue to incrementally move the body. You can also immediately, without having to go back the dialog, select one of the other 5 handles, enter an incremental value and repeat this process of pressing the 'Enter' key until you have the final desired location/orientation. Granted, this only allows you to enter one value at a time, but it does provide the ability to use this for both Translations and Rotations, whereas Delta is Translate only.
Anyway, give that a try and see if that will meet your needs.
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
And this what a Unigraphics 'workstation' looked like back when I stared using UG:
And if you would like to get the full story about the PFK (AKA 'the original UG user interface'), go to:
http
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
When you are working with Drafting Symbols, the ones (usually a circle with an inscribed letter/number) which are linked to the items in a Parts List or some referenced note, when you refer to them, do you think them as an 'ID Symbol' or 'Identification Symbol'? In other words, do we need to spell out the word 'Identification' or not? This would be both in terms of what you would see in the user documentation as well the User Interface, such as in Dialogs, Icon names and in Tool Tips.
Now I would like to hear from users who are also using NX with non-English dialogs as well as people whose first language may not be English yet are using NX with English dialogs, what are your views on this same topic? Is spelling out the word 'Identification' better than using the abbreviation
'ID'?
John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
as a Dutch speaking NX user i don't think spelling out the ID abbreviation would be usefull. People are so familiar with the english language nowdays(school, tv, movies, music). It would be like spelling out CAD/CAM all the time, the abbreviations are common good if you work in this sector, plus it speeds up reading/speaking. So the same for the abbreviation ID.
Hope it helped a little.
Best regards,
Michäël.
NX4.0.4.2 MP10 / TCE 9.1.3.8_build_0711 / NX6.0.2.8
Belgium
RE: NX6 Transform...
"ID" symbol is perfect, the menu icon shows exactly it's intended use for a BOM or you can use it to ID anything else.
Design0058,
I go back to V-7, that old PFK was very fast, especially after one memorized the pattern, type in your commands fast enough and you could sit back and watch your model being manipulated,
time is everything in our business today, a project that had a lead time of 12 weeks twenty years ago is now expected in four and must pass FAI in most cases.
Hans
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John R. Baker, P.E.
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RE: NX6 Transform...
Ok, I realize those old button pushes are never going to come back but there is one thing that maybe you could help me with. Is there anyway to assign the F9 through F12 keys to OK, Apply, Back and Cancel as they once used to be? I've tried to use the Customize Keyboard but I can't find them there.
RE: NX6 Transform...
Out-of-the-box, the F9, F10, F11 and F12 keys are currently unassigned so all you have to do is go into the Customize dialog, select the 'Keyboard' option, scroll about 20% down the 'Categories:' list and select the item titled 'View Popup' (the top item, not one of secondary ones) and now over in the 'Commands' column you'll find those elusive OK, Apply, Back, Cancel options. Now all you have to do, to program the F9 key for example, is to select the 'OK' item in the Commands Column, change the focus to the 'Press new shortcut key' entry and press F9 and then press the 'Assign' button below it. Now repeat for Apply, Back and Cancel. Then Close the Keyboard and the Customize dialogs, and so that they don't get lost, save your Role and you should be good to go.
I said it was going to be easy
John R. Baker, P.E.
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX6 Transform...
I am going to drop a bomb on this thread.
turn on / some of the legacy transformation options are not available in NX6.
UGII_ENABLE_TRANSFORM_LEGACY_OPTIONS = 1
Right click My computer - properties - advance - Envirorment variables - New -
Variable UGII_ENABLE_TRANSFORM_LEGACY_OPTIONS
Value 1
Works great.
Don't rely on it, like John said the new fuctions in Move are better, just take some getting use to.
RE: NX6 Transform...
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX6 Transform...
John, your point made is understood as well. Thanks to all!
PMc
CNC Programmer