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mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

(OP)
Hello



I've just had brought to my attention a problem we are having with assemblies. I make assemblies with two major configurations - assembled and exploded. For our last major design we have pulled the assemblies from the vault for final check before release have have found some mates suppressed in the assembly configuration and all mates suppressed in the exploded config. No one has been changing model faces and no one has been supressing unsupressing in the assembly.



Today I added  a mate in a subassembly. I confirmed that the mate was unsupressed in both configurations. The check pulled it from the vault and confirmed it as well. This subassy loaded with the major assembly whose mates I checked. These are loaded from the vault not my C drive. I openned the subassy and the mate added today was supressed in the exploded config.



My VAR checked and the Developers notes had the question - "how do I keep SW from supressing mates in an assembly?" - basically this problem.



Has anyone experienced this and found a solution?



Thank you.
 

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

rudragoo,

Which PDM suite are you running and what version of the suite?  

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 09 x64, SP 4.0
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

(OP)
Thanks for your help. We have PDMWORKGROUP ver. 2.1.

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

We haven't seen anything like what you are describing and we've been vaulted for two years or so. Are any of the parts that have suppressed mates trying to mate to a suppressed part? you may not have all the files you need for the assembly checked out. I have seen that before, and SW isn't always the best about flagging you when it can't find a part. It just gets "helpful" and starts suppressing things.  

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 09 x64, SP 4.0
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

(OP)
These are all parts that were successfuly mated and have been for awhile. I don't think I have had this experience before but I could have - this was just so extensive that I knew for sure that it wasn't just something I did. They were mated when they went into the vault and not when I checked them out. One I had mated about an hour before, checked it in, and then checked it out as part of a larger assy. The new mates were suppressed.

My VAR has sent it up to SW so I will probably never hear another thing about it.

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

rudragoo,

   I have a possible non-PDM explanation for you.

  1. Go to the configuration browser in the assembly model.
  2. Right click on each configuration and look at the properties..
  3. Under Advanced Options, look at "Suppress new features and mates..
   If this button is ON, any mates you apply in one configuration, are not applied in the other configurations.  This would occur at the time you applied your assembly constraints.  

   If you have verified that you had unsupressed all constraints in all configurations and they are supressed on being checked out, then you have some other problem.

               JHG

RE: mates being suppressed coming out of the vault

(OP)
Thanks for your help. I'll try that as soon as I finsh my current job.

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