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Magnifying glass not working

Magnifying glass not working

Magnifying glass not working

(OP)
I tried the magnifying glass in 2009 via the G hotkey. The rim of the magnifying glass pops up, but the image inside stays the same size. Sometimes I can see the outline of the geometry a little bigger, but it doesn't draw it.

Nvidia 500XGL graphics card.  

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RE: Magnifying glass not working

Is that card SW certified? Is it a Quadro FX or Quadro 4?

Try scrolling the mouse wheel to see if the magnification changes.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

(OP)
Yes it is certified. But not with 2009.  

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RE: Magnifying glass not working

That could be the problem then. Did you try scrolling the mouse wheel?

I see the latest driver from nVidia is the same as the last one approved for SW, so you are stuck if it is card/driver related.

Do you have access to an approved card to test?
Have you tried Software OpenGL?

RE: Magnifying glass not working

(OP)
Software OpenGL is my only route. There is no provision for a PCIExpress video card.

The middle mouse button doesn't work. It's a logitech mouse.  

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RE: Magnifying glass not working

Time for a new system?

Are you saying the middle mouse button doesn't work because it's a Logitech mouse ... or that it doesn't affect the magnification?

RE: Magnifying glass not working

(OP)
Nope, with the SW performance increases touted in 2009 was hoping I wouldn't need to invest in new hardware.

SW appears to have dropped support for about 38% of the NVidia lineup from 2008 to 2009.

  • 2007 42 cards certified
    Quadro4 550 XGL        WinXP       6.14.10.7756       04/21/2006      2007        View Notes
  • 2008 39 cards certified
    Quadro4 550 XGL        WinXP       6.14.10.9136       04/21/2006      2008        View Notes
  • 2009 24 cards certified
    Quadro4 XGL series dropped
RX provides this information:
Manufacturer: NVIDIA Corporation
Card: Quadro4 550 XGL/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
Driver: 6.14.10.9136

SoftwareOpenGL does not support the magnifying glass option. So this test is inconclusive.

Running SW2009 without options (an RX function) does not work and crashes so I can't perform this test.

Interestingly nothing shows up on tested and not passing on the SW site for the NVidia card. So it is inconclusive that this card will not actually run with 2009 since they apparently didn't even test it.

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RE: Magnifying glass not working

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Nope, with the SW performance increases touted in 2009 was hoping I wouldn't need to invest in new hardware.

Bwa-ha-ha!  Are you serious?  You mean like, "Up to 65% increase in drawing speed"?  Or maybe customer approval of something like 95% satisfaction (or whatever they now say the number is)?

Sorry--I guess this seems like my laugh is at your expense here--but I completely lost all faith in anything corporate SolidWorks says about two years ago when it was demonstrated to be false by real-world application.  No connection between reality and their numbers/performance/satisfaction AT ALL.  I think they're using the dart board for their marketing jargon a bit too much.

In other news, I've had no use for the magnifying glass, because the zoom on my mouse is much faster/effective anyway with my work style.  But I have mapped the S key to a mouse button (Logitech MX-Revolution mouse), which is a nice time-saver.

Good luck finding that better performance with these recent versions of SolidWorks.  My experience shows reliability and speed (for what I do) to have reached a pinnacle in v2007, with v2009 only a little better than the bloated v2008.

 

Jeff Mowry
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RE: Magnifying glass not working

"with the SW performance increases touted in 2009 was hoping I wouldn't need to invest in new hardware."

That would be nice, but it doesn't work that way!

I think the touted performance increases are based on comparing SW09 to SW08 when both are run on hardware more suited to the demands of SW09. i.e. newer hardware. Running SW09 on hardware spec'd for SW08 will not give the same results.

Taking it to the extreme, imagine trying to run SW09 on a computer which was spec'd out for SW96. I doubt it would even install.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

(OP)

Quote (Jeff M.):

Taking it to the extreme, imagine trying to run SW09 on a computer which was spec'd out for SW96. I doubt it would even install.

Take it from me, it won't. The laptop* I am typing on would do a respectable job of running 2004, but after that it wouldn't even install.

Back to the topic at hand, does anyone have thoughts on how SW implemented the magnifying glass? The one major difference between the XGL and the new FX models is RealView support. Is anyone running a non-RealView card with magnifying glass working? It would seem that the driver should insulate the application software from the hardware.


*PIII-600MHz, 8Mb ATI Mobility, 192MB ram, Windows 2000, SP4

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Quote (Theo'):

I completely lost all faith in anything corporate SolidWorks says about two years ago when it was demonstrated to be false by real-world application.

It's the same with all/most CAD player. Look at the SolidEdge marketing BS claim to be 100x faster. Turned out that only applied to moving a face on an imported, non-native model compared to converting that same model to recognised features and then using regular editing functions. Well, that's great if that's all you do, but most people don't have that 'luxury'.

To be fair, the SE claim was "up to 100x faster" so they were actually telling the truth, but as with most truths, they can be presented in misleading ways.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

Although that might be true (similar with most other CAD software), it didn't used to be true with SolidWorks marketing.  They used to be able to stick with solid, demonstrable facts and sell the software like mad.  Wonder why they now resort to statistics of fantasy?  Maybe corporate leadership has finally gotten the memo of lost confidence?

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people governed by fear cannot value freedom.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

I believe you touched in the key cause of that issue ... corporate leadership ... especially now Dassault is involved.

The original SW leadership was probably very much involved in all aspects of the smaller company. Now that it is a major player and subsequently larger company, I imagine the marketing empire has freer reign to do what marketing people do best ... exaggerate.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

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Quote (CBL):

Are you saying the middle mouse button doesn't work because it's a Logitech mouse ... or that it doesn't affect the magnification?

It's a Logitech mouse. I suppose I should look for a driver or something if that is affecting the G button.

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RE: Magnifying glass not working

You might have more fun searching for a G-spot. wink

RE: Magnifying glass not working

Logitech (these days) uses their SetPoint software for keyboard/mouse/whatever controls.  But I'd recommend downloading it through the Logitech site instead of through some third-party provider to avoid malware.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people governed by fear cannot value freedom.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

BTW, I use Logitech meece at work and home, and the Magnifying Glass works great ... when I remember to use it that is.

RE: Magnifying glass not working

(OP)
I loaded the Logitech driver and now have wheel scroll. Now what I get with the magnifying glass is the outline or edge of the object under the glass. So I can use it to pick small edges. The scroll now works on the magnifying glass.

So this is pretty much a graphics card issue. Thanks for the thoughts. thumbsup2      

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