Wet sticking foundation dowels
Wet sticking foundation dowels
(OP)
I am just wondering how many of you out there allow contractors to wet stick foundation dowels. I generally allow typical foundation wall dowels to be pushed into place but always require retaining walls to have all rebar tied in place. I have run into a situation where the contractor placed dowels for a retaining wall after pouring the concrete for the footings A.K.A. wet sticking the dowels. I have since required the contractor to epoxy additional rebar into the tension side of the wall to ensure proper bond is achieved. Of course holy hell broke loose and I am the only engineer that does not allow wet sticking dowels on retaining walls. The state building inspector has also taken sides with the contractor. am I being too conservative here.






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Five years down the road - the contractor is gone and you are left holding the problem - you!!
Can you do it - probably - esp if you make them vibrate or consolidate after they install.
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dakota99: I'm with you. Wet-setting dowels for a single family residential foundation may be okay - I could live with that. But for a critical structure like a retaining wall or a very code-conscious structure (commercial, multi-family, etc.), I would insist on the bars being tied in place before placing concrete, and I would insist that the concrete be properly consolidated.
Ralph
Structures Consulting
Northeast USA
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I work on bridges, and wet doweling is certainly not allowed. I do not think you are being unreasonable. Incidentally I have epoxy-ed dowels in the past, and it is not a great deal.
The building inspector is not signing the drawings, you are.
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Regards,
Lutfi
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Post the results when you get them, please.
Regards,
YS
B.Eng (Carleton)
Working in New Zealand, thinking of my snow covered home...
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Don't mean to pick on, just something to think and prepare for. I am curious on the result as well.
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BA
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I do not allow wet setting except for projects with insignficant frost walls.
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Even though this was only for a slab overpour, the hammered-in dowels can't be close to properly embedded now, and watering the concrete weakened it.
Do not allow wet sticking. All reinforcement and other embedded items should be secured in-place prior to pouring concrete. We have that note on our drawings, and don't budge from it.
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Is the contractor doing the pull tests himself? Sounds like a conflict of interest. Get the owner to hire a third party.
I never allow wet sticking. I also never get requests to do so.
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