pay for drafting.modelling,detailing?
pay for drafting.modelling,detailing?
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hi all
i want to know average cost for a detailing,drafting,modelling job?how do they do pay hour basis? sheet basis?? no of sheet basis??does it defers from continent to others? i am working for a mnc we do detailing,drafting,modelling to US,europeon countries..its my intention to know how do the process go...i feel that my company is extracting more work and gaining a lot...pay less..
i want to know average cost for a detailing,drafting,modelling job?how do they do pay hour basis? sheet basis?? no of sheet basis??does it defers from continent to others? i am working for a mnc we do detailing,drafting,modelling to US,europeon countries..its my intention to know how do the process go...i feel that my company is extracting more work and gaining a lot...pay less..
UG NX5,SOLID WORKS





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UG NX5,SOLID WORKS
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Most CAD jobs I have had pay on an hourly basis, with the understanding that I put in a full week of work. Sometimes I had to work more hours than I billed just to get the job done and not scare away the client.
I have only had one job where I was paid based on the number of "drawing packages" I completed. I was taking old AutoCAD drawings, modeling them in Pro/E and making new drawings as per the client's standards.
In both cases: The work in the beginning is usually slower, since you need to get accustomed to the clients' standards and requirements. There may be multiple iterations on the first drawing before you get it to the customers' liking, especially when you are just starting out. If you are clever about it, you can set up templates, shortcuts and other tricks that make the work go faster without sacrificing drawing quality and accuracy. When that happens, the work that you do later on will go by much quicker. But this only works well when there are a lot of drawings to do, since the time you invest in setting everything up is "paid back" by being more efficient later on.
I'm sorry, I can't give you specific advice about pay rates in your part of the world, as I have never been (but would love to visit some day).
That the story of my life, and the lives of many others here
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we do the same here ,,,but we need to be flexible..multiple customers in different softwares.working in one particular software is hectic now-a-days.so i feel that i have been giving much effort for less pay..any way thanks for your information...
UG NX5,SOLID WORKS
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We are nominally charged by the hour. However, when we give them a pack we estimate the number of hours and they agree and that then becomes the price for that package, I believe.
However, the amount of administration required on our side, and some of the difficulty getting packs prepared to our requirements means that we aren't giving them as much as some here had anticipated.
I'm not clear if you're asking how much you should be paid for drafting or how much your company should charge - obviously not the same thing.
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If you offer something more than plain CAD you can get more.
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I've seen most pay for just CAD detailer ~$10-15 where I've worked at. Not including benefits of course.
James Spisich
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There is a wide pay range depending on the area, CAD system, other duties...
However, I've seen quite a few jobs advertized down around the $15 dollar mark.
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To be honest my experience with Indan CAD guys is that 90+% are graduates who did a CAD course and have a copy of the student software at home, and will work, enthusiastically but without result, for $3/h. Of the remaining 10% most seem to be experienced front men who can talk the talk, and then hand the job to a dusty room full of the same graduates as above, who actually do the work. Perhaps I am a cynic.
In one case I put a job out for quote and got responses ranging from "I'll do it if you teach me how", to 40 hours (from a $15/h man). I did it myself in 4 hours.
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naresh843, it may not be the case for you, but often Cad guys/jockeys/monkeys etc. may know more of less what button to push on the software but know little or nothing of the skills required to draft or model well capturing design intent, addressing things like tolerancing and basic engineering/design issues & comine up with robust product definition. To me that is little more than a minimum wage job, not much more complex than knowing what buttons to press on the register in a retail store.
I want a drafter/designer who uses CAD as a tool, I don't want a 'CAD guy', it's one reason I dislike my current title of 'CAD Engineer' (apparantly picked off of some salary survey somewhere with no real thought to what I actually do).
15-20 years ago would I have been a 'drafting table engineer' or 'pencil engineer' or 'eraser shield engineer' etc.?
Sorry, a bit off topic but the difference is significant, some of the really experienced designers here, without a degree, are making about the same $ as me. A CAD jockey would be lucky to be making half.
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But scenario over here in india is totally different,,,none of the indian companies hire the employees for hour basis..its very rare we find companies like this...
And as per my knowledge some of companies pay still like hour basis and its pay is $5/hr (average).A perfect designer gets 20$/hr atmost..i think its very low...compare to other countries
Its still decreased now a days due market crisis...
UG NX5,SOLID WORKS
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UG NX5,SOLID WORKS
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I know you make a lot less than we do here. I don't know your living conditions, work conditions, or anything about the Indian taxes, government or anything.
The Chinese are baing taken advantage of at the expense of US jobs. I think to a certain extent Indians are also.
David
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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I started out as a detailer back in 1993 for $9 right out of school. Worked my way to a design engineer making a salary of around 40k. Due to lay-offs, downsizing, and off-shoring, I've been stuck at that salary for a few years. Have not successfully negotiated a higher starting salary anyplace I've started a new job at. The mareket is tough around here. If I won't to do the job for the rate they want to pay, there are likely 10 others who will. I've gotten to where I'll take about anything to stay in the design field.
David
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Depends, depends.
Some out there (even some college graduates) don't get the basics after 6 months.
The mistakes are so numerous, and so .. stupid, I can't tell you the number of times I wanted to throw some people out of the window.
Every now and then, I get a really bright kid, and then as soon as I am all filled with hope, the guy is just too good to stick around.
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Never, but never question engineer's judgement
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Thanks in advance
UG NX5,SOLID WORKS
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You are in India. You are cheap. That is why you have so much business.
You people are being taken advantage of along with the Chinese, and other low-cost labor countries. From what I've read, your boss and the company owners are getting rich offo f you and your fellow employees becaue you don't know any better.
NAFTA has made this a winning proposition for big companies (Upper management and CEOs), and a losing proposition for American citizens who've lost their jobs due to outsourcing.
You people need to stand up and demand fair pay. True that some business may get brought back to the U.S., but a level playing field will mean a better situation for everyone.
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David
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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Never, but never question engineer's judgement
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His view is not the voice of reason.
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A logical person might not think that was a great strategy, but from his perspective it is perfectly reasonable that free trade, and his unwillingness to move, and lack of foresight, should not affect his future wealth. Ideally the state would determine his utility, 'sadly' most regimes that thought the same have disappeared.
According to The Economist India has a ppp of about 274%, so an Indian CAD contractor on $5 ph would have to earn US$13.50 per hour in the USA for the same standard of living. Since there are large numbers of Indian graduates pursing that $5 ph job it is unlikely that an entry level grad has much ability to 'demand' higher wages, and if he did then they would be out of kilter with the rest of his society.
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Paul van der Heijden
Composite Engineer
Vekoma Rides Manufacturing BV
Internet: www.vekoma.com
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Could /I/ have got $330 from the same customer? No.
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Cheers
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Gotta be worth a star