Earthwork specification conflict
Earthwork specification conflict
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We have recently seen some site grading plans that in the general notes column state " A geotechnical report has been prepared and is available for information purposes. All grading activity shall be coordinated with the recommendations in this report. We contend that a geotechnical report is not a contract document and should not serve as a substitute for a project-specific grading specification that incorporates input from the geotechnical report. Is anyone else seeing such comments? If so, how are you dealing with the issue?
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While I would never want my report to be part of the contract documents, I welcome the boring logs and laboratory test data to be included in the contract documents.
For the report to be exclude from the contract documents (a good thing) and the contract documents to specify the recommendations of the geotechnical engineering report as a project requirement is just sloppy work.
Just one man's opinion. . .
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The civil engineer should be in a better position to understand and incorporate the geotechnical report into the specifications and details, rather than having a contractor provide his interpretation of the geotechnical report and get it wrong, then to be blamed by everyone for screwing up something he shouldn't have had the responsibility for.
Actions such as this by an engineer certainly violate the standard of care of civil engineers and possibly constitutes negligence, but that would have to be pursued locally as that interpretation is part legal, part standard of care.
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In my drawing notes, I also stipulate that the design information has been obtained from ??? report, number and date and that a copy of this is available.
Generally, the geotech report has sufficient disclaimers to...
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However, the final site grading plan - issued for construction - was the only design/construction related contract document related to site grading that would be provided to the various contractors. In this case the project(small distribution center project)developer will also serve as the general contractor. Our report was comprehensive; soil boring logs, laboratory test results, and sections that the observed subsurface conditions and provided site grading and building foundation recommendations.
BigH - I agree. Include with the contract package the boring plan,boring logs and lab test results for information purposes and give the contractor the option of supplementing the available information. But the interpretive portion of our report should not be issued as-is. We might find and identify a site condition, but not necessarily describe how to deal with it from a contractual standpoint. In my mind, that is the civil engineer's responsibility.
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