Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
(OP)
Hello chaps,
We have had our update for SE for some time now but as an organisation we fear change!!
Just trying to ascertain the pros and cons that people have found in actually using ST as opposed to the UGS/reseller marketing bumpf!
Our parent company has a successful working method for CADCAM using SE v20 and EdgeCAM - does anyone have any experience of what effects ST and v21 in general may have on this?
Thanks
Jon
We have had our update for SE for some time now but as an organisation we fear change!!
Just trying to ascertain the pros and cons that people have found in actually using ST as opposed to the UGS/reseller marketing bumpf!
Our parent company has a successful working method for CADCAM using SE v20 and EdgeCAM - does anyone have any experience of what effects ST and v21 in general may have on this?
Thanks
Jon





RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
I had a very brief go with ST but like many others gave up.
My personal opinion is that if V20 and EdgeCAM work for you and do everything you want them to, then stick with them for a while and give the new versions of SE a thorough test on an isolated workstation.
bc.
2.4GHz Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM,
Quadro FX4600.
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
thread562-236348: Jumping on ST! Good or bad idea?
We are in no hurry to go to ST having seen the demo, and this has been confirmed by what I've read on hear and on the SE user group.
KENAT,
Have you reminded yourself of FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies recently, or taken a look at posting policies: http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm?
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
If it ain't broke don't fix it! they say, and I'm at ease with V20 to do everything I need so that's the sure bet for now.
I may change my mind when ST2 comes out but until then I'm in no rush to change.
Patrick
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
After a demo of SEwST from our VAR and a guy from Siemens and much discussion internally, we made the decision to upgrade to SEwST about one-and-a-half weeks ago. However we are sticking with the traditional side of it...
The only real difference between V20 and wST Traditional is the tool bar and where certain commands are placed, but you do get used to it - the same way you also have to do every time MS makes a change to Office etc. And we are all going to have to get used to similar tool bars as Office 2007 isn't going anywhere!! We've actually found it to be quite intuitive once you get in to it but, like any change, there can be some frustration when you can't find something you want to do!! We've also found it to be faster than V20 was though this is through subjective opinion not actual objective measurement.
Opinions of full ST... Thought the speed to make changes with full ST was out-of-this-world - again we have models of tubes with holes in (control valve internals) and it changed the hole pattern sizes etc. so much faster! Liked the flexibility and extremely impressed with the importing if non-native components. However we don't like the idea of our models being finished as not fully constrained - make one change and it can have too much of a knock on effect. The guy from Siemens says that you should tie down the critical dimensions and basically leave the rest to their own devices (I guess creating random angles and lengths etc. are fine in CAM world where the model is the drawing and a computer spits out the machine code, but not so good for components drawn properly and then made by machinists as we tend to use). The ST side of SEwST seems to be, in our opinion, more of a designer's tool than an engineer's tool, if you know what I mean!
Jon
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
I think you have summed it up pretty well in your last posting Jon, ST has advantages but I don't think it gives the same control as fully defined traditional.
bc.
2.4GHz Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM,
Quadro FX4600.
RE: Advice please on shifting from V20 to ST
KENAT,
Have you reminded yourself of FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies recently, or taken a look at posting policies: http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm?
What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?