Someone knows Steam Out operation details?
Someone knows Steam Out operation details?
(OP)
Please,
Could anybody describe me how is the SteamOut operation normally done in refineries?
I'm asking under a Piping Stress point of view.
It is easy to run a calculation with the steam out condition, the main problem occurs regarding to existing systems, that may be too conservative. I was wondering if the procedure itself implies in any line boundary changes like for example:
¿Do the Steam out personnel normally release the nozzle attached previously ?
¿It is normal practice to have specific steam inlet and outlet included on the line for that purpose?
¿How they protect pumps from being heated ?
I would appreciate if someone experienced in this subject could comment something more about it.
Regards,
Hansito
Could anybody describe me how is the SteamOut operation normally done in refineries?
I'm asking under a Piping Stress point of view.
It is easy to run a calculation with the steam out condition, the main problem occurs regarding to existing systems, that may be too conservative. I was wondering if the procedure itself implies in any line boundary changes like for example:
¿Do the Steam out personnel normally release the nozzle attached previously ?
¿It is normal practice to have specific steam inlet and outlet included on the line for that purpose?
¿How they protect pumps from being heated ?
I would appreciate if someone experienced in this subject could comment something more about it.
Regards,
Hansito





RE: Someone knows Steam Out operation details?
Normally there is little or no stress concern during Steam out. Most lines in a refinery run hotter than the steam used for steam-out.
¿Do the Steam out personnel normally release the nozzle attached previously ?
Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.
¿It is normal practice to have specific steam inlet and outlet included on the line for that purpose?
No!
¿How they protect pumps from being heated ?
You don't! Sometimes it is necessary to steam out the pump if you need to work on it too. Remember depending on the service, the pump was just running at maybe 400 degrees F to 800 degrees F and the steam out temp is only about 250 degrees F
RE: Someone knows Steam Out operation details?
My concern is just for the lines with design temperature below the SteamOut temperature, say lines with Design Temperature = 80 C for example, being "steamed" at 160 C. We may even have some cases of lines with design temperature nearly ambient being "steamed".
Under my opinion if a line is supposed to be "steamed" the design temperature should be at least the Steam Temperature, unfortunately the Process Line list do not reflect that.
I appreciated your answer very much.
Regards,
Antonio